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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by CharlesAFerg, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. CharlesAFerg

    CharlesAFerg Beaverton Active Member

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    Who keeps records and for how long?

    With the massive databases that have accumulated, I understand if convicted criminals are forced into the system for a long, long time. What about law-abiding civilians going in for employment background checks or firearm purchases?

    How long must we be kept on record? Personally, I don't like the idea. Think about this, because I don't mean class 3, just regular fingerprinting for either a job or perhaps purchasing a firearm.
     
  2. nx302stang

    nx302stang PAC-NW Member

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    my understanding is for a long time. Especially because of afus. I could be wrong.
     
  3. wichaka

    wichaka Wa State Well-Known Member

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    They are kept, and classified until the person dies.

    If the person is confirmed deceased, then they are pulled.

    ..and it's AFIS
     
  4. Nicademus

    Nicademus Woodinville, WA New Member

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    When I was finger printed no finger prints showed up. I had worn them all off from working. Only a ring of prints showed at the very edge. The lady said it was fine and everything went through.
     
  5. caliber bob

    caliber bob Yamhill County, OR. Member

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    Nice!:thumbup:
     
  6. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Fingerprints all go into AFIS criminals and CHL holders alike.
     
  7. Nicademus

    Nicademus Woodinville, WA New Member

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    Yeah it was pretty nice, until I let my permit lapse back in August and didn't get a new one till recent. I had to go through the whole process again and my finger prints were "Perfect" the lady told me :(
     
  8. caliber bob

    caliber bob Yamhill County, OR. Member

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    You could let this one lapse and work em off again:paranoid:
     
  9. NWMoss

    NWMoss Lost, permanently... Member

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    Too late! They got 'em now!
     
  10. Nicademus

    Nicademus Woodinville, WA New Member

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    I know it really bummed me out.
     
  11. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of that, does anyone know how long records of hand gun sales are kept?
     
  12. Contento

    Contento Seattle Member

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    My theory is the government throws out nothing, even if they're supposed to. Whats a few bits of memory in some Iron Mountain warehouse somewhere gonna cost them? Not enough to stop them from storing every piece on info they get.
     
  13. tionico

    tionico Thurston County Well-Known Member

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    A Washington based FFL Dealer just told me about the handgun purchase forms... HE has to keep one copy in his files for twenty years. Copy two goes to the sheriff's department of the county of residence of the purchaser, to be kept a LONG time. Copy three goes to the state Department of Licensing to be filed away... probably forever. In regards the Washington State DOL, they are maneouvering to get a whole new set of "responsibilities" if this ammunition serialising nonsense gets foisted upon us, as it will be a new division of the DOL responsible for keeping those records. Bottom line, SOMEONE in the State of Washington will have a permanent record with details of every handgun purchased in this state, as well as every box of ammunition if that bit passes. They are working on closing down the "gun show loophole", as has Oregon, and it is only a matter of time until some wonks get together and manage to pass similar registration requirements for long guns. As of now I am told that Washington do not maintain records of long gun purchases, but this info may be in error. I know that, in Oregon, since it is the State government actually doing ALL firearms permits, they DO keep the records.... how long? I haven't learned that one, but I can only imagine it will be for a LONG time. After all, no government agency does anything without that thing becoming more complex and long-lived than originally imagined. And, they'll never run short of the funds to maintain and protect those data..... nor to analyse and derive data from them at will. They'll always find just one more source for the needed revenue.....