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^^ Classic divide & conquer...WAYYYY too many in the selfish, 'well, I gots mine, so why should I bother to oppose this??' crowd.

Put another way 'If you don't oppose us, we'll let you keep yours' (for now, pinky swear!).

And when it fails...again, they'll use that failure...again...as an argument for more failed restrictive legislation. But from their perspective it isn't 'failing,' its just one step closer to abolishing firearms ownership for the unwashed masses.

You'll notice the inclusion of the terminology their using this time around, veiled 'If you not a supporter of the Ministry of Truth group-think crowd, you're the enemy' mentality.

$.02 worth,
Boss
 
  • Requires that grandfathered assault weapons are stored using a secure gun storage or safety device like a trigger lock.

  • Prohibits the transfer of high-capacity ammunition magazines.

  • Bans bump-fire stocks and other devices that allow semi-automatic weapons to fire at fully automatic rates.


So I was pondering these points last night. Absolutely absurd.

Are they going to send the LEO's out to your house to make sure your "assault weapon" is secured properly. Are they going to issue search warrants for every "assault weapon" owner in the US? Methinks not, logistically unreasonable.

Magazines aren't coded. I could meet Charlie Chickenfat at any parking lot or other seedy location and do a transfer. Charlie then just says I bought these pre-ban.

To my knowledge bump stocks are already banned. So is this like double-secret probation?
 
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So I was pondering these points last night. Absolutely absurd.

Are they going to send the LEO's out to your house to make sure your "assault weapon" is secured properly. Are they going to issue search warrants for every "assault weapon" owner in the US? Methinks not, logistically unreasonable.

Magazines aren't coded. I could meet Charlie Chickenfat at any parking lot or other seedy location and do a transfer. Charlie then just says I bought these pre-ban.

To my knowledge bump stocks are already banned.

This is all true. The problem comes in when they want to make an example. Say your house is burgled and gun(s) are stolen. You made the report, w/serial number(s) make and model(s). Two years down the road one of your guns turns up in a serious crime. I don't know HOW they're going to prove anything you did wrong? But they might try. The criminals go through that routine all the time. Us legal, law abiding gun owner not so much.
 
Charlie Chickenfat says: What magazines??? :D

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The crypt keepers of the US. Most likely these old people made deals with the devil and will live long and push this country into the gutter....oh wait Pelosi's region already is. Maybe not her neighborhood.
 
Democrat sponsored bills horrendous to America are coming fast and furious.
This is just the latest. Look at the crap that's been going on the past couple of months.
Not a whisper of anything related to leading the free world politically, economically, ethically or militarily.
A brain dead dummy playing dictator with executive orders. Political leaders using American troops against private citizens. The capitol of the free world encircled in chain link and barbed wire. This is the Democrat vision for America.

Everything is focused on destroying our civil society and the effectiveness of our form of government. This bill is just the latest. Terrible for America if it passes....but meaningless to the Dems if it fails. There's a bigger game being played.

They're using their old senile "leaders" as lightning rods. Let them introduce/promote anti-American legislation as fast as they can. Let them create a distraction.

Fact is, at this point, Pelosi, Feinstein and Biden have very short mental and physical shelf lives. Very soon they will be completely useless in the Dems effort to destroy America.

Biden was born more than a little bit stupid.....and too dumb to keep his mouth shut to hide the fact . At this point he has the cognitive ability of a 4 day left over meat loaf. Wouldn't be surprised if he spends his day behind the Resolute Desk in the oval office finger painting with his poo.

Many reports available of Feinstein requiring management yet still failing to hide her senility.
Pelosi is regularly saying bizarre things and acting out signs of dementia. Zero self awareness.

These senile fools create the chaos. The 25th amendment is enacted and Heels Up Harris steps in bringing "stability". On the undercard Feinstein and Pelosi are replaced by the AOC crowd. At that point transformation of the Democrat party is complete. The enemies of America are in control of 2 of the 3 branches of government.

Bills like the one being discussed are vehicles to keep the troops motivated and mobilized. Doesn't really matter to the Dem game plan whether the the bills pass or fail. If they pass so much the better but the real game being played out is establishing and maintaining power beyond the ability of the voting booth to moderate. This is a functional definition of the destruction of the idea that is America.

That's why it is so important to the Dems to destroy all the systematic (and practical) checks and balances....destroy the electoral college, remove the filibuster, pack the supreme court, force vote by mail to outdated voter rolls. remove ballot chain of custody, defeat voter ID verification, outlaw voting signature verification and send out trillions of dollars to buy influence and fortify Dem controlled urban strong points.

This gun control bill is terrible and needs to be defeated. Don't be distracted from the bigger con being run.
 
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Ok everybody, here is the list. I have a few to mention that are not on the list. So if this is a ban by specific models, if other models are not listed. Are they exempt?....................




Rifles: All AK types, including the following: AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS; All AR types, including the following: AR–10, AR–15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15–T, Barrett REC7, Beretta AR–70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R–15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR–15, Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles; Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter; Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT–9; Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1 and HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub–2000, SU–16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR–48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M–14/20CF; All Thompson rifles, including the following: Thompson M1SB, Thompson T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D, Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1–C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5, Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78; Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.

Pistols: All AK–47 types, including the following: Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK–47 pistol, HCR AK–47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK–47 pistol, Yugo Krebs Krink pistol; All AR–15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR–15 pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR–15 pistol, Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP–9 and MP–45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol; The following MAC types: MAC–10, MAC–11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11, Velocity Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre; All Thompson types, including the following: Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5; All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.

Shotguns: Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12; All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01, IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika; Streetsweeper; Striker 12.

Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms: All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB.
 
These people are just bent on reinstating that damned AWB from 94 to 04, but without a sunset provision I'm sure. No sane American should ever re-elect such persons who are obviously all about destroying the constitution and freedoms that have kept us free citizens for over 200 years.

Yes they are, that is exactly what they are doing. No sane person should have voted for them in the first place, or let them get this far.

This is how Socialists/Communist took over every place they have come to power. Think Venezuela...

Remember this, it happened on our watch. At this point we are letting it happen.

Ever wonder how the Nazis, Stalinists, Marxists, and Khmer Rouge came to Power?
 
I'm looking at this stupid SOB I share an office with who arrogantly disagreed with me that "Biden wasn't going to take our guns".. Just dismissed me out of hand, like I was a child.

If Biden signs this thing I am going to punch him in the face.

You can punch him already, trying and potentially failing is just as bad, it means he would have if he could have.
 
That awkward in-between stage where society still functions enough it's too early to defend the republic from enemies, foreign and domestic, but the mechanisms designed for the republic to fix things peacefully, are so rampant with corruption that they no longer function effectively.
 
Remember a couple things. First was Obama's first stint. For 2 years he had all 3 houses. They lost after they hosed health care. Second this time we really do not know who is running things. It's sure not Joe. When you watch him speak it's easy to see why they do not let him. He is suffering badly and some times does not know where he is. His party has played footsie with some radical's who want FAR more. It's now so bad they are scared of infighting. So they seem to be going all in, counting on a loss at midterms. Look at the southern border and what they are doing. They may well suffer a loss to rival the one Obama had but, what else are they supposed to do? It's either go all in now why they have a chance, or have a lot of infighting.
Last this great hoax has worked beyond what any could have imagined. People lined up to lose their jobs, their business's, their rental property, and they voted the same people back in office. So why would these same people get any angrier over this law? People have to remember laws like this are just fine with a HUGE portion of the gun owners. This law will pass, years later a lot of gun owners will not have even heard of it.
As time goes by and more "find out" they will of course get really mad and want to blame everyone else since they sat on their hands and did nothing, just like before. :s0092:
The party in power made it very clear they were going to do this and they won. Why would they be afraid to do what they told voters they were going to do and voters responded by electing them?

I take it you still believe we have fair and honest elections?

Hopefully they don't throw out the Filibuster, stack the Supreme Court and give DC and Puerto Rico Statehood.

Here's a hint, that's their plan and Schumer has said so. Look what they will get done in just 100 days. 2022 is a long way off, even if we still did have fair and free elections.
 
I take it you still believe we have fair and honest elections?

Hopefully they don't throw out the Filibuster, stack the Supreme Court and give DC and Puerto Rico Statehood.

Here's a hint, that's their plan and Schumer has said so. Look what they will get done in just 100 days. 2022 is a long way off, even if we still did have fair and free elections.
There is no doubt in my mind that there was some cheating. That does not mean Millions of people did not vote for this, including millions of gun owners. The state I live in they voted in a law making my 10/22's Assault Weapons. Gun owners sat on their hands and let it go into law. One of the supporting shops here put up a ton of time and money to put it back up to voters for a do over. We could not get enough gun owners to bother to sign. That is not a problem with fair and honest. It's problem with voters get just what they deserve then cry and complain. :s0054:
 

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