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Did a bunch of research & it does seem that gifting is acceptable with no nics. Way too complicated.
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A few months back my pop expressed interest in getting his first firearm. I decided to surprise him,so I put a bid on a pistol on gun broker & I won. I had the gun shipped to an ffl close to where he lives & went down with him to go through the process when the gun arrived. I was informed by the ffl that since the gun arrived with my name on it,they could not run the check on my father & that when I was cleared we'd have to go back & then have my pops go through the process. My thought is that they're just trying to double dip on the transfer process. Am I wrong?
A few months back my pop expressed interest in getting his first firearm. I decided to surprise him,so I put a bid on a pistol on gun broker & I won. I had the gun shipped to an ffl close to where he lives & went down with him to go through the process when the gun arrived. I was informed by the ffl that since the gun arrived with my name on it,they could not run the check on my father & that when I was cleared we'd have to go back & then have my pops go through the process. My thought is that they're just trying to double dip on the transfer process. Am I wrong?
i've been giving my boys a gun out of my collection every christmas for the last half dozen years.
never been told that would be a problem
Exactly RightI think you guys are making this way more complicated that need be.
The law is simple and clear. You cannot act as a buyer for ANYONE, either a prohibited or non prohibited person. If you are buying a firearm to give as a gift to your father YOU ARE THE BUYER, you are not acting as a buyer for anyone. Even with Washington's bastard law you can buy the gun as a gift with the intent to give it as a gift to one of the named family members listed in the I594 exemption.
If it was not a gift, if your dad was giving you money to buy it for him that is a crime (a dumb crime, but still a crime) But that is not what we are talking about.
There is no need to do two transfers. You are the buyer, you answer the question truthfully that you are and then you give it to your dad as a gift. That is 100% on the up and up, there is not even any gray area.
In the past year(last Christmas), I bid on and won a handgun for my son that we shipped to an FFL in Kentucky. I paid for it, they sent it to the local FFL there, they performed the background check on my son and Viola!! He got his Christmas gift.
Bought my younger son a handgun at Cabelas that was on sale-they ran the background check on me and I in turn gave it to him for Christmas.
"Never post anything that can be used against you 10 years hence"
That's what I heard an attorney say
we all are, I guess when push comes to shove we will be arrested for trivial breaches of the law and then 'sorted out' as the Brits sayIm so screwed...
I think you guys are making this way more complicated that need be.
The law is simple and clear. You cannot act as a buyer for ANYONE, either a prohibited or non prohibited person. If you are buying a firearm to give as a gift to your father YOU ARE THE BUYER, you are not acting as a buyer for anyone. Even with Washington's bastard law you can buy the gun as a gift with the intent to give it as a gift to one of the named family members listed in the I594 exemption.
If it was not a gift, if your dad was giving you money to buy it for him that is a crime (a dumb crime, but still a crime) But that is not what we are talking about.
There is no need to do two transfers. You are the buyer, you answer the question truthfully that you are and then you give it to your dad as a gift. That is 100% on the up and up, there is not even any gray area.[/QUOTE
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Never say the word "gift" in a gun shop.
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Never say the word "gift" in a gunshop
I'm glad to see this thread. At Christmas, I was told by a large sporting goods store that I couldn't buy a gun as a gift for my husband. I thought they knew what they were talking about.