Eagle Creek Oregon Fire

[Flymph]

Just the parts with trees that isn't a rain forest... no big deal!

 

[01rednavigator]

This was from my neighborhood yesterday. We have already moved one load and the cars are loaded and ready to bugout if needed. Haven't slept in a couple days. View attachment 389180

Damn, that's scary.

 

[41mag]

Seems like the entire gorge just went up in smoke...

not "went up".....more accurately "is going up"

 

[EPS]

The fire up here in Cle Elum they call it the jolly ridge or something like that is in such steep woods and mountains that they not even trying to fight it on the ground few helicopter 's and plane's they not going to take a chance like what happened a few years ago when 7 guys where killed

 

[EPS]

Damn, that's scary.

I was Santa Barbara in 89 or 90 when we had that big fire watched it come at us burned a few home 's down the street from us it's scary not a good deal hope these guys are OK

 

[GRUNDEL]

Risk a lot to save a lot, risk a little to save a little. While all fire crews will push it to the max to save lives and property for the most part at this point it's just trees and no matter how pristine the gorge is that's really all it is. Trees and rock, neither worth getting killed over.

 

[GRUNDEL]

The upside is that if you leave some chicken or ribs out on the deck for a couple hours, they turn out delicious.

So by now our Hens should be prime for eating. Just not sure I'm willing to give up the egg production?

 

[CHLChris]

The sign and waterfall as seen in my Profile photo (Horsetail Falls in the Gorge) is most likely black.

I teach school and today was the first day in my district. The interior halls were smokey all day and my classroom smells like a cigarette ashtray. Where do we even go to get fresh air? Puget Sound? Sounds like maybe a trip this weekend!

 

[GRUNDEL]

The sign and waterfall as seen in my Profile photo (Horsetail Falls in the Gorge) is most likely black.

I teach school and today was the first day in my district. The interior halls were smokey all day and my classroom smells like a cigarette ashtray. Where do we even go to get fresh air? Puget Sound? Sounds like maybe a trip this weekend!

We thought about just that. Been chatting with friends and family up there and they are saying they can't see the sun and it's raining down ash from the what they are guessing is the fire on crystal mountain.

 

[CHLChris]

We've got family in Bremerton, which is across the Sound from Seattle. It's way too near the rain forest to be smokey, right? (He asks with a hopeful upturn to his voice...)

 

[EPS]

Bingo. We also had just lost the 4 amphibious tankers from Canada that had been working the Indian creek fire the day before eagle creek blew up.

YEP these States and or city 's don't want to put money in the budget for fire fighter 's or police but they want millions of dollars to pay for homeless drug addict 's mmmmm I DON'T WHAT TO TELL YOU

 

[EPS]

We've got family in Bremerton, which is across the Sound from Seattle. It's way too near the rain forest to be smokey, right? (He asks with a hopeful upturn to his voice...)

I'm way north in ANACORTES San Juan islands can't see the sun except through a smoke haze took these pictures at about 10:00 today

 

[JedB]

One of the best ideas I've heard today, as it relates to the perpetrators & parents (of the minor) of this fire has been 10 years of community service, both days every weekend for 10 years.

10 years * 52 weeks * 2 days = 1040 days of work for each of the people involved.

Replanting trees
Replanting plants
Helping with construction of hiking trails
Bridge re-building

I personally would also like to see 10 years of payments from all involved back to the communities that are funding the fire-fighting efforts.

I hope that the firefighters and air crews stay safe.

 

[Gaucho Gringo]

If you look at the one in SW Oregon it looks bigger on the map that the infamous Tillamook Burn. I remember what it used to look like in the 50's(B1951) and planted trees there when I was in grade school. Everybody is busy fighting the fires now but the real work will be in the years after. Hopefully they will allow salvage logging. It does a few things like not letting good timber go to waste, provides employment, generates some sort of revenue stream & gets rid of fuel mass for another fire. Hopefully the tree huggers will come to their senses and allow this to happen rather than run around crying that their recreational areas are gone. One of the main problems is the wilderness set asides are so large now they make fires worse. It was predicted what would happen 30-40 years ago that these large fires would happen on an increasing scale and frequency.

 

[Hop Sing]

Just wondering why every available unit was not thrown at this immediately... it's upsetting.

Have you seen how many fires are burning in the west? There aren't enough resources to deal with it all. The Chetco Bar fire itself is nearly 200,000 acres and only slightly contained.

 

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It's so smoky here in Spokane I wish I had a CPAP.

 

[EPS]

One of the best ideas I've heard today, as it relates to the perpetrators & parents (of the minor) of this fire has been 10 years of community service, both days every weekend for 10 years.

10 years * 52 weeks * 2 days = 1040 days of work for each of the people involved.

Replanting trees
Replanting plants
Helping with construction of hiking trails
Bridge re-building

I personally would also like to see 10 years of payments from all involved back to the communities that are funding the fire-fighting efforts.

I hope that the firefighters and air crews stay safe.

Good idea but do you have any idea how much money it cost to have just one helicopter flying for a day you would be paying for the rest of your life for just one but that could be a good way to make people think in the future

 

[GRUNDEL]

We've got family in Bremerton, which is across the Sound from Seattle. It's way too near the rain forest to be smokey, right? (He asks with a hopeful upturn to his voice...)

Me too, grew up in Silverdale/Poulsbo. Got the invite today but it doesn't sound any better than here.

 

[Hop Sing]

Also, it'd help if the f---wits at Forset Service would get off their dead head-lodged-up arses and clear the 747 tankers for duty...

Found a story on it but no real answers.

Contract Dispute Grounds Converted 747 As Wildfires Rage Across The West

 

[JedB]

Good idea but do you have any idea how much money it cost to have just one helicopter flying for a day you would be paying for the rest of your life for just one but that could be a good way to make people think in the future

Choppers are in excess of $15,0000 per hour, especially for specialized ones
IThe costs to fight the Eagle Creek fire alone are going to be in the millions.

For me, in spite of what I'd personally like to do, the 'community service' serves to get some small percentage of the area burned renovated. It makes the perpetrators think about it for a LONG LONG LONG (like their whole life) time.

And, unlike heads on a pike which only last a short time, serves as an ongoing warning...