CCW Puyallup Indian Reservation

[boogerhook]

I was studying the outline of the Puyallup Reservation near Tacoma. Both I5 and SR167 go through that reservation. The state route and the Interstate freeway may not be "tribal land" however, if you were to stop at a gas station this might change. There is no CCW in that particular tribe. Any insights on what is legal and what isn't?

http://wikimapia.org/10376205/Puyallup-Indian-Reservation

5.12.780 Carrying a concealed firearm.
Any person who knowingly conceals a firearm upon his person or who carries a firearm which is not within plain view in the passenger compartment of his vehicle shall be guilty of a Class B offense. [Res. 201212B (12/20/12); Res. 130691 (06/13/91); prior code § 5.03.510. Formerly 5.12.440]

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[SOrez]

I was wondering about the parking lots of Indian Casinos. I would guess that answers that question.

 

[Classic]

The roads that go through the res are "State Routes" meaning the non-indians paid for the roads so keep on the state roads and they can't do squawdouche (pun intended)

 

[bellarum]

Instead of a turn out to chain up there will be a tax payer funded turn out to "unload and stow your weapons" Maybe at a rest area serving Starbucks.

 

[Brutus57]

Interesting...had dinner with the wife at a casino last night. I saw no metal detectors but left my little brother sturm in the car.

Brutus out

 

[boogerhook]

Interesting...had dinner with the wife at a casino last night. I saw no metal detectors but left my little brother sturm in the car.

Brutus out

Even leaving it in the car "out of view" appears to be against the above code of the tribe (I guess OC only). Making it the opposite of what's required in WA state. Hard to understand. Knowing that each tribe has their own laws makes it even more complex and almost unreasonable to expect to have full knowledge of.

 

[Brutus57]

I guess we would be expected to look these things up prior. I know several members of the nearest nation to me are highly supportive of the 2a and the tribal chair knows me by name face for all the good that might do locally. It is a pity this stuff has gotten so complicated. I do like being on an island these days except for no good large rifle range.

Brutus out

 

[boogerhook]

further reading has revealed that tribal courts may have jurisdiction only over their members (in criminal matters). that could mean that your WA state CPL holds even while on reservation property. I will check into this a little more and share what I find.

 

[mjbskwim]

I would say if I ain't at their casino,they can go bubblegum themselves.
They think they own Fife and most of the way up to 512,too.I don't believe they would have much grounds anywhere but on the casino and smoke shop properties.....unless you were acting like a dumba$$
Are they really wanting to start some BS and lose most of their customers? Since I would bet most of the guys on the tide flats carry.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

further reading has revealed that tribal courts may have jurisdiction only over their members (in criminal matters). that could mean that your WA state CPL holds even while on reservation property. I will check into this a little more and share what I find.

What did you find out?

 

[wired]

Nothing on the Puyallup tribe. I work on the Yakima reservation and have to be careful about carrying because its not clear here either.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/tribal_law_ccw.pdf

 

[Jerry]

UH...just what is this statute that you are referring to? I'm not familiar with it. It's not in the Revised Code of Washington (RCW), at least that I can find.

5.12.780 Carrying a concealed firearm.
Any person who knowingly conceals a firearm upon his person or who carries a firearm which is not within plain view in the passenger compartment of his vehicle shall be guilty of a Class B offense. [Res. 201212B (12/20/12); Res. 130691 (06/13/91); prior code § 5.03.510. Formerly 5.12.440]

 

[Koda]

Nothing on the Puyallup tribe. I work on the Yakima reservation and have to be careful about carrying because its not clear here either.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/tribal_law_ccw.pdf

the link that Wired shared is the very best source of legalese to go by. The basic premise is if your passing thru dont step a foot off the paved major state highway.... but even thats not always the case....

Carry on Indian property is controlled by Tribal Law. You must check with each tribe before carrying on their property. Some Indian Tribes consider federal and state highways through their property as under their control.

 

[Brutus57]

I know the casino will wand you to go upstairs to the dance hall. I got invited up there a few weeks back and I had my Swiss Army knife and a couple of rounds of 7.62x39 cause i had been to the shooting range earlier. Needless to say I turned around and walked out, given the price of ammo these days and Swiss knives.

Brutus Out

 

[wired]

the link that Wired shared is the very best source of legalese to go by. The basic premise is if your passing thru dont step a foot off the paved major state highway.... but even thats not always the case....

Carry on Indian property is controlled by Tribal Law. You must check with each tribe before carrying on their property. Some Indian Tribes consider federal and state highways through their property as under their control.

I dont know if its all that bad. I work on a reservation and probably 1/3 of the cars out in the lot have guns of some sort in them. I go for weeks at a time without seeing an "American" Indian. Mexican Indians on the other hand...

 

[Kid@Heart]

Eff them. REMEMBER THE LITTLE BIGHORN!

 

[tac]

Eff them. REMEMBER THE LITTLE BIGHORN!

I recall that you guys came second in the particular business. Personally, I would have thought that most of the non-native population of the USA would rather forget it.

tac

 

[The Heretic]

Generally the reservations are theoretically sovereign nations and therefore have the right to make their own laws. Given how the natives were screwed over and still are, I don't have a problem with that.

However, as one person pointed out, for the most part, their laws mostly only apply to the members of their nation - in practice (the tribes would need to call federal authorities to have a non-tribe member arrested, and usually their request is just ignored).

Just the same, I try to obey the laws/rules/regulations of any regional authority.

 

[Kid@Heart]

I recall that you guys came second in the particular business. Personally, I would have thought that most of the non-native population of the USA would rather forget it.

tac

Davey Crockett didn't do so well at the Alamo, either. It still became a rallying cry for Texans to stand up against tyranny. Perhaps you should watch more John Wayne.

 

[wired]

in practice (the tribes would need to call federal authorities to have a non-tribe member arrested, and usually their request is just ignored).

Thats not the case at all. If the tribal police cant handle whatever it is they get involved in or if its a non tribal member they are dealing with they just detain whoever they are dealing with and call the county sheriff ( deputy ) who is out there pronto. I work in the middle of the Yakama reservation and I see more Yakima County Sheriff's out on the res than I do Yakama tribal cops by a wide margin. If our burgler alarms go off at work its the County guys that show up and not the tribal cops.