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Can't have more than a 5 round mag even if I am just tagging along?

Discussion in 'Northwest Hunting' started by PDXoriginal, Jul 15, 2012.

  1. PDXoriginal

    PDXoriginal PNW Well-Known Member

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    I will be tagging along on a pronghorn hunt later this summer in Eastern Oregon.

    I plan on taking my AR to do some varmiting. Never understood if this was a general rule or not during any hunting season, but can I not carry a more than 5 round mag in my rifle or on my person while out there?
     
  2. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If you are hunting antelope then no more then a 5 round mag. If you are hunting Varmits and its allowed in that unit during antelope season then you are allowed as many as you want. But be warned depending on where you are at while antelope hunting your going to see game wardens and OSP. I would not in anyway shape or form be packing a weapon walking along next to the person with an antelope tag.

    Read the regs.
     
  3. gunfreak

    gunfreak Boise Well-Known Member

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    On page 30 it says, Semi auto rifles with a capacity greater than five cartriges prohibited. My 700 excepts 10 round mags so I can legally hunt that way, even though I've only ever needed one shot to kill a deer.
     
  4. Varmit

    Varmit Beaverton, OR Member

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    I am hearing people say that the Oregon 5 round magazine rule does not apply to Varmit hunting, yet I cannot find that in the regulations. Everything states "not legal for hunting". Varmit hunting is still hunting because you need a hunting license. I don't see where it says what is legal for hunting "Predatory Mammals"?. Anyone know where it specifically says larger magazines are legal for varmit hunting?

    I have never seen a state with such conflicting and poorly organized regulations as Oregon. In some cases, they actually contradict themselves.
     
  5. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't specifically say they're legal but there's no restriction. The devil is in the definition of game mammals and unprotected mammals. The magazine restriction is for game mammals on page 30. Coyotes, sage rats, etc. are unprotected mammals because they don't require a tag. Look at Unprotected Mammals on page 12 of the big game regs. The definition is on page 82.

    I also wish the regs were simpler.
     
  6. cwest

    cwest Hillsboro Member

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    False. You can not legally hunt with a 10 round mag in your M700...
     
  7. Torqk911

    Torqk911 Yacolt,Wa Member

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    I guess here is the more important question... I left my hunter safety course about a month ago under the impression given this scenario "walking in woods with a group hunt, you have no tags, loaded rifle on your shoulder" a ranger technically can assume your there to poach at that time fine/confiscate/jail do whatever they deem necessary given the situation and their mood at the time.

    Please correct me if I am wrong here or enlighten me.

    Second is why would you want to carry a rifle if your not hunting? I don't like to subject my guns to the weather unless I am shooting/hunting. Why carry the weight around all day?
     
  8. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You want to cite a rule to back that up?

    Sounds like you are saying that more than 5 rounds in a manually operated gun is a no-no.

    100+ years worth of lever action users will be surprised, along with a couple of generations that
    use sporterized Enfields.
     
  9. cwest

    cwest Hillsboro Member

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    i can dig up the citation from a few years back... M700 DM .270 with a 10 round mag... i knew it was wrong but did it anyway, had to pay the piper...
     
  10. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Every Winchester model 94 in 30-30 holds 7 rounds in the tube. And I they are perfectly legal and have been since 1894 to hunt with in Oregon.

    This is a direct cut and paste from ODFW regs :

    Centerfire Firearm
    •Fully automatic firearms prohibited.


    • Semiautomatic rifles with a magazine capacity greater than five cartridges prohibited (except for western gray squirrel).


    • Military or full-metal jacket bullets in original or altered form prohibited.


    • Hunters may use any muzzleloader with any ignition type, except matchlock, any legal sight, any propellant, or any bullet type during centerfire firearm seasons, provided the weapon meets caliber restriction for the species.


    NOW hows your reading comprehension? It says SEMI AUTOMATIC it does not say ALL or EVERY or anything that would include a BOLT ACTION, LEVER ACTION, PUMP ACTION, SINGLE SHOT or anything besides a SEMI AUTO.
     
  11. shockme

    shockme oregon Member

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    very true, lever guns oh what about pistols wheel guns hold six shots hmmmm.... guy claim to have paid the piper a cop can issue about anything he wants we must fight for ourselves.
     
  12. DonovanJay

    DonovanJay Southern Oregon Member

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    I would be interested to see the citation that says someone got a ticket for mag capacity in a bolt action rifle or anything other than a semi automatic rifle.. either way I would probably skip hunting with your buddy during pronghorn season if you're trying to avoid a confrontation with the state police and/or wardens.
     
  13. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Then leave the AR at home. While Oregon no doubt has some poorly written laws I for one would not try to challenge any of them by 'splitting hairs' on any of them. You mentioned varmint hunting while tagging along with your friend. If your plan is to carry your AR while you are with him that would be a bad idea. While technically legal in the broadest interpretation of the law an AR carrying tag a long does not look good at all. This is an issue that seems to get beat to death often but the reality is there is a time and place for everything and regardless of your intent, or what you might think is right or wrong let the AR set this one out. Besides as difficult as hunting Antelope is I would not want any additional shooting in the area.
     
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  14. nny420

    nny420 oregon central coast New Member

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    Wrong. Take the ar. I hunt with mine. Just follow the law spend 15 bucks on a 5 round mag and no worries.
     
  15. GFO

    GFO WaCo, Oregon Active Member

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    Use these. MagPul Pmag 5-Round Mag Limiter 20-Round Pmags 223 Remington Polymer
     
  16. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Mark W. always comes forth with such good info. RVTECH always supplies the stalwart rock. You are tagging along on an a Antelope hunt and want to be perfectly legal. Why on God's green earth would you want to carry in your gun the MAXIMUM allowable ammunition capacity????? You might have a chance at a jackrabbit or coyote. I would guarantee you that you will not get off 5 well-placed shots at those game. Equip your AR with a good 4-round clip as I do on my Montana foray). Believe me: in the field, it does not happen as in video games. ONE SHOT is the hopeful chance. TWO SHOTS at game (particularly varmints or such) is the grace of God.

    The very likely scenario as a partner with no tag, is that you will NEVER fire a shot. And THAT is a good partner.
     
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  17. Varmit

    Varmit Beaverton, OR Member

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    As a partner without a tag for that particular hunt, I would not carry a rifle. Maybe a pistol for emergency use. I would carry a backpack with the extra gear needed if an animal was taken, along with extra water, the lunches, my own pair of binoculars plus the spotting scope. We would both be scanning with our own binoculars as we move about and I would set up the spotting scope when needed and also act as a spotter when any shots were taken. I would help dress the animal and pack it out.

    Why else would anyone want to take a partner? Hopefully not because they are uncomfortable in the outdoors alone?
     
  18. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    I like to think of it as being pragmatic and practical.
    About the only reason would be is if you or a trusted longtime hunting partner did not get a tag and one or the other asks the non-tag partner to come along. Happens often in my circle but the thought of carrying a rifle for the possibility of an impromptu varmint is hardly a consideration as my focus (if I am the non-tagged partner) is to help my friend 'tag out'. Over here (in the East Side) we go varmint hunting frequently, heck I do it on the way home from work sometimes, and can certainly put it off for a weekend or more to concentrate on being the 'White Hunter' for a friend who has a tag.
     
  19. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Another important consideration when deciding whether to carry a gun as a "non-tag" partner:

    With big game on the ground, what item becomes a useless awkward sea-anchor that interferes constantly with the task at hand (packing out)?

    Answer: Your rifle. An extra one is despised even more.