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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by ATCclears, Dec 27, 2013.
Shoppers Stock Up On Rifles, Shotguns Before Long Gun Registry Begins « CBS Sacramento
Oh Californians... does it even matter at this point? All your other gun rights have been F`d.
I just posted a comment, was dropping in here to post this thread.. you can sign in as a guest! Note the article is as slanted and left as possible, only one comment allowed in it from a guy who says the 2nd is about hunting
I'm amazed they allow guest comments since Cali is basically Soviet Russia circa 1921
Hopefully the Revolution will begin soon with the Democratik Peoples Republik of Kalifornia as the starting point.
I'm in like Flint
Can you imagine what the gangs, cartels, criminals, tyrannical governments in that state will do to its people now. Just cause they can and will. Keep up the great work on gun free zones liberals this is way better than abortions.
I think it is becoming much worse than that. As is DC, Conn. And a few more places.
Police and gangs an everyone else stuck unarmed in the crossfire, just about like Syria.
Unfortunately we have the same situation developing in Oregon, 3 metropolitan areas dominating the vote for the entire state. This is the same reason firearms and ammunition are unavailable as every time some anti speaks or the obamafites have a verbal thought we go buy more. At some point you would think the libs would get it but they just keep living in their little fantasy and believe nothing will ever come their way. Security over Feedom, when do they learn what they're giving away ?
Don't those damn fools know a long gun registry won't work??? Canada gave up on theirs after wasting a gazillion dollars (loons) with a population of long gun owners like point one percent compared to the Peoples Republik of Kalfornia! :banghead:
Brother, my point was that death purges for enemies of the state are coming soon. Stay tuned
Canada does not have hordes of orcs willing to enforce it, the traitorous instigators there jumped the gun
In California that's one in the same.
And we ain't seen nuttin, yet
A simple trip to California will show that, no, it isn't just like Syria, with a three way shooting civil war going on, with foreign powers pumping in arms to various factions, and tens of thousands of dead, millions of refugees.
It isn't like Russia 1921, with the entire country starving to death in sub-zero temperatures, and three foreign powers occupying its territory, with millions of dead and displaced people.
It's also highly unlikely that long-gun registry will cause an armed insurrection amongst the middle class, over-fed gun owning community.
This is the kind of stupid rhetorical b.s. that makes it so difficult to develop coherent arguments against the coming of dumb California-type gun laws in Oregon.
'Something' will always beat 'nothing' in politics, even if that 'something' is stupid. If all we have, as pro A2 people, is imaginary nonsense to offer the public - or saying gun control laws will lead directly to the Cheka busting in the door, or that the liberal elected majority party is a version of the Nazi Party or, Communist Party, the public will ignore our arguments.
We need to talk about how to increase public safety, and the positive role that people who are capable of self-defense play in improving public safety. We should talk about the causes of violence, ways to reduce violence, and then show how ineffective gun control laws are. The NRA was partly correct to call for an armed presence in 'gun free zones', but that only goes a tiny way to solving the problems of violence.
The truth is that most tools for increasing self-protection have nothing to do with guns, one way or the other. We need to expand the debate if we are going to bring the public over - which is very possible, theoretically.
The problem is that gun rights are now married to right wing politics, and most of the public are not right-wing extremists, racists, or fanatical anti-communists. Most people are moderate.
And there in lies the problem. You cannot solve violence, crime, not punishing you children etc, etc, on and on with MODERATION.
Then say good bye to your gun rights. Actually, you can reduce violence and crime with common sense solutions. Conservatives, liberals, and moderates have all proposed changes that don't involve gun control but do help reduce violence. No one solution solves everything. It's a matter of many changes adding up to a safer environment. But it takes political will and realizing that the 'perfect' is often the enemy of the 'good'.
The new registration requirements will barely change anything to the acquisition of firearms in California. It is already nearly the same procedure for purchasing a handgun and long gun in California - both have the same paperwork and 10 day waiting period. Long gun serial numbers were not previously recorded in the state database, now they will be, just like they've been doing for 20+ years for the handguns. The only practical implication now is that when a person takes up residence in California, they will have to submit the registration form for each of the long guns they bring into the state, which before was only the case for hand guns. Any firearms that were acquired prior to enactment of registration requirement do not have to be registered, and are legal to possess in California. Also, there is no impact on persons visiting California with firearms.
Disclaimer for the panic people:
This is just to clarify the technical details of the new law, not to state my political opinion on it
So do you work for MAIG or the Brady bunch ???