Black Powder Shotgun loads

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I have a Pedersoli SXS 12ga, older lightweight one, about 6lbs with browned barrels with a differential fixed choke constriction.
I really don't like misfires so installed 209 ignition nipples to be sure I don't miss bird opportunities. Misfires stopped when I got rid of the percussion cap nipples.

Looking for suggestions on what powder, wad, and shot load combinations have worked for you.

I have done OK nontoxic shot area pheasant hunting with 70gr FFg and 1oz #5 bismuth or tungsten matrix in premeasured capped plastic test tubes for speed loading.
For wadding I use a thin overpowder card, bore buttered felt cushion, another thin card, then shot, and another thin overshot card.
I've tried more powder but the patterns tend to get blown.
I cannot get fiber wads down past my choke constrictions, so tend to rely on flexible wad materials.
I played with pillow ticking and paper shot cups but found no advantage over time lost.
I cannot use steel, or hevishot in this shotgun. It patterns lead beautifully but I can't use it hunting my area.
 
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Andy54Hawken

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My experience has been the opposite of yours...my using of traditional shooting and loading methods , have worked for many of the percussion shotguns that I have owned....both original and replica guns.

Will have to ask around and give this some thought for a better answer.
Andy

Edit to add....
Fiber wads , much like patches , round balls and the like...are different , from different companies.
As in...one company's 12 gauge wad may measure .740...the next maybe .742 or .745
Maybe try a 13 gauge wad which is around .720....
 
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Please check your hunting regs in the use of the 209 primers, wouldn't want you to run affowel of Johny Law! I know several states have specifically banned the use of the 209's, so better check!
Interesting you brought this up. I was tearing down my Pedersoli this evening and discovered one of the 209 nipples has been damaged... so now it’s back to hotshot #11 nipples. My only previous FTF were with 777 and other substitutes, but never with real FFg or FFFg, and I have some now.
I’m GTG.
 
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I’ll share. It’s no secret. Skychief is a well respected member of a Muzzleloading forum. He found that loading in this order creates a drafting low pressure zone behind a heavy fiber wad that keeps the shot pattern together out to 50yards... and does NOT donut the pattern like a fiber wad under the shot does.
Powder
Nitro card
Shot
Thin overshot card
1/2” olive oil soaked wet fiber wad on top (messy, use rag)
I have heard this is only a noticeable difference on cylinder bored guns.

My gun is fix choked .705 right/.695 left. These constrictions make pushing in a fiber wad (or nitro card for that matter) very difficult unless 13 and 14ga fiber wads are respectively used, but then they won’t be a tight fit in the 12ga bore. I don’t want an undersized fiber wad in the second barrel coming loose on the first shots recoil and advancing down the barrel creating an airpocket and obstruction.

That’s the nice thing about 12ga thin cards... I can taco them in and straighten them out with the ramrod. Felt is no issue. And they stay put.

I will continue to experiment.
 

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