That could indicate she may be more inclined to block further infringment... than say... johnson or kotex, but really.... we're kind of in a "not great, but better than worse or devil spawn"... as far as the choices we have before us.
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Betsy Johnson, Machine Gun Owner
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Johnson's voting record is far more pro2A than Kotek's, and Drazan's silence/absence of any voting record regarding anti 2A bills is deafening. Johnsons County is a 2A Sanctuary. Clackamas, part of 39th District that Drazan represented is also a 2A Sanctuary County though.
It's certainly not great, no matter how you slice it. For me though, I'll take "she is the most likely of the 3 to veto any additional infringments" over "if that's what OR wants, I'll sign it!'
Considering that Drazen seems to hold the deepest contempt of kotex/brown-esk policies, flat out says she'll be shredding many of browns crap dictates as soon as shes in office and taking politics out of the classrooms... maybe she will and maybe she won't succeed, but the odds are more in favor of it than with Johnson... who doesn't seem to speak out with any conviction on much of anything other than, "I'll do whatever OR says they want without any loyalty to left or right agendas". IOW, let the woke continue to drag our state through the pigsty.
At least that's my read on it. Maybe she's just trying too hard to sell herself as the "I'm for OR candidate" without yet showing any real backbone or personal convictions about much that it just comes across that way, but... such as it is. Now is the time to impress the voters, and I for one just ain't feelin it.
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She ain't showing chit as far as I am concerned.
Just an old, liberal hippy from the '60's era who is just following the herd, and using the "I'll do whatever OR says they want without any loyalty to left or right agendas". to relieve herself from any persecution.
This is what we are now experiencing as SOME elements of our political system. Mumble mouthed, possibly drug affected wretches who think they have the ability to perform as public servants but are nothing but remnants of a past life they think they can resurrect.
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Can't argue that either. That's exactly my read as well.
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Yep - a scapegoat to relieve herself from any responsibility.
This is a example of how a Governor should NOT respond or act.
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The only people who wear new PPE like that are either office nerds visiting a job site or the company safety committee....or in this case, paid political actors.
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You think they're worried? Drug poor old Sleepy Joe all the way to Oregon.Or votes away from Kotek who got a visit from Biden today
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If they needed the support and presence of a creepy, senile President to boost their numbers, yes they're worried that Betsy is taking votes away from a solid D win, especially if Drazan continues to rally support and contributions to her own campaign. On the other hand... if enough registered R voters don't vote at all this cycle for whatever reasons... eh. Don't get hopes too far up is what I'm saying. Politicians aren't legally bound to their campaign promises just a FYI, and the only ones who seems to actually try to make good on them are the current ruling party with a D letter.
That's an extremely narrow view of the world, IMHO.
What about strippers just trying to earn an honest buck!? They gotta eat too, ya know.
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That's an extremely narrow and view of the world, IMHO.
What about strippers just trying to earn an honest buck!? They gotta eat too, ya know.
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I will vote for whoever has the best chance of defeating Kotek. She is campaigning on her past gun control efforts. If she wins, she will be even more emboldened.
If a Republican actually defeated Kotek despite her strong political connections, and won in Oregon, it would send a huge message to the current group of progressives running the government here.
If a Republican actually defeated Kotek despite her strong political connections, and won in Oregon, it would send a huge message to the current group of progressives running the government here.
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Where were you Mike?
While in the Marines, I had a BAR and an M1 Rifle in my locker at all times. Granted while not in a war zone they were unloaded and I was not supposed to have any live ammunition in my posession.
While in the Air Force, I was not issued a weapon and personal firearms had to be stored in the unit supply, one floor away in the barracks, or at the Rod & Gun Club, where they were accessible at any time during duty hours.
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Military has changed since then unfortunately. And there are plenty of individuals in the military (I only have experience in the Marine Corps) who don't have the mental bandwidth between the ears to be trusted or responsible with a firearm. Luckily in the USMC you FAFO.Where were you Mike?
While in the Marines, I had a BAR and an M1 Rifle in my locker at all times. Granted while not in a war zone they were unloaded and I was not supposed to have any live ammunition in my posession.
While in the Air Force, I was not issued a weapon and personal firearms had to be stored in the unit supply, one floor away in the barracks, or at the Rod & Gun Club, where they were accessible at any time during duty hours.
Exactly the way I think. I consider myself a moderate D but will no way go for an even worse Kate Brown II. I liked Johnson early on but it's clearly evident I'll now be going with Drazen to keep Kotek out. Even Nike's Phil Knight saw the writing on the wall and switched his mega buck donations to Drazen. Time for a change.
I'm pretty excited with the news that K. Drazen has a lead. I hope it will stay that way. And even grow.
Considering "Moderate" democrat. I'm not sure it's the same thing it was just 5-10 years ago, they've gone so far out there now.
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Hence the reason so many are walking away from the party.
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I'm still looking at the numbers of registered voters by Party in Oregon
1,019,668 for the Democrats.
723,728 for the Republicans.
1,022,556 Non-Affiliated
201,679 3rd Parties/Others
Okay. So Drazan the Republican is polling in the lead by a few points...and that's just polling. (Remember 2016 with Hillary being declared winner by polling but Trump won by votes?)
if Betsy is pulling the votes away from Kotek, good news. If she's pulling the votes away from Drazan, (I see no evidence that she is, if anything, I see a lot of comments here and elsewhere that Betsy is too liberal/wishy-washy) then Kotek by the numbers has an easy win.
If say, Drazan has what 35% polling from registered Republicans? Eh that's a relatively dismal number considering that the Democrats have a numerical superiority of 10% or so... but again, if Johnson is pulling the votes away from the Democrats.....
on the other hand, if Drazan is picking up a lot of votes from the Non-affiliated bloc.. I'd be impressed. It ain't over until its over and until the Secretary of Oregon office counts the ballots
1,019,668 for the Democrats.
723,728 for the Republicans.
1,022,556 Non-Affiliated
201,679 3rd Parties/Others
Okay. So Drazan the Republican is polling in the lead by a few points...and that's just polling. (Remember 2016 with Hillary being declared winner by polling but Trump won by votes?)
if Betsy is pulling the votes away from Kotek, good news. If she's pulling the votes away from Drazan, (I see no evidence that she is, if anything, I see a lot of comments here and elsewhere that Betsy is too liberal/wishy-washy) then Kotek by the numbers has an easy win.
If say, Drazan has what 35% polling from registered Republicans? Eh that's a relatively dismal number considering that the Democrats have a numerical superiority of 10% or so... but again, if Johnson is pulling the votes away from the Democrats.....
on the other hand, if Drazan is picking up a lot of votes from the Non-affiliated bloc.. I'd be impressed. It ain't over until its over and until the Secretary of Oregon office counts the ballots Where is that vote count info from?I'm still looking at the numbers of registered voters by Party in Oregon
1,019,668 for the Democrats.
723,728 for the Republicans.
1,022,556 Non-Affiliated
201,679 3rd Parties/Others
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Okay. So Drazan the Republican is polling in the lead by a few points...and that's just polling. (Remember 2016 with Hillary being declared winner by polling but Trump won by votes?)
if Betsy is pulling the votes away from Kotek, good news. If she's pulling the votes away from Drazan, (I see no evidence that she is, if anything, I see a lot of comments here and elsewhere that Betsy is too liberal/wishy-washy) then Kotek by the numbers has an easy win.
If say, Drazan has what 35% polling from registered Republicans? Eh that's a relatively dismal number considering that the Democrats have a numerical superiority of 10% or so... but again, if Johnson is pulling the votes away from the Democrats.....
The one from the SoS page shows different numbers per county totals.
This is as recent as October 2022
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