An ex-felon uses a gun for SD? A Cleveland grand jury says OK.

[hermannr]

You also had no Internet, and negroes had to ride at the back of the bus Are you serious in drawing parallels between modern society and something that you had growing up some 50-60 years ago ?

I will tell you what we didn't have in 1968 that relates to whta happened in CT, CO, and other places...GFZ's. That is one thing we did not have...your everyday 12 year old could bring his .22. his shotgun, even his dad's pistol for show and tell. Never cause I problem that I know of.

We did have rifle teams in high school. they cometed with other schools just like football and basketball. You could take marksmenship as a PS elective, just as you could swimming. We also had teachers that did not worry about being sued and fired because the whacked the back of a kid that was acting up. Some schools reserved the "board of education" to the principal only, some did not.

There is a BIG problem today. Even though the demoncrats, and like travelers, talk about equality, they promote the opposite...if it Ob promoting that blacks are better than whites or someone else doing the opposite. where I grew up (BC, OR, Calif and AB) at least in the schools I went to, everyone was treated the same...even the Doukhobors.

 

[fd15k]

I will tell you what we didn't have in 1968 that relates to whta happened in CT, CO, and other places...GFZ's. That is one thing we did not have...your everyday 12 year old could bring his .22. his shotgun, even his dad's pistol for show and tell. Never cause I problem that I know of.

So let's see....

January 29, 1979 San Diego, California,

United States
Brenda Ann Spencer, 16 2 dead, 9 injured 2 9 Armed with a .22-rifle, 16-year-old Brenda Ann Spencer opened fire at Cleveland Elementary School, killing two adults and wounding eight children and one police officer. Spencer was later apprehended after a six-hour stand-off, and she was asked of her motive for the killing, to which she shrugged and infamously replied "I don't like Mondays. This livens up the day."

February 24, 1984 Los Angeles, California, United States Tyrone Mitchell, 28 2 dead, 13 injured 2 13 At 2:23 p.m. 28-year-old Tyrone Mitchell began shooting at students leaving 49th Street Elementary School in Los Angeles with a 12-gauge shotgun and a rifle from a second-floor window of a building across the street. He killed a 10-year-old girl and wounded 11 other children, as well as a schoolyard supervisor and a passer-by. When police finally stormed the building they found Mitchell's body, who had killed himself with the shotgun. Mitchell had lost his parents, grandmother, brother and four sisters in the Jonestown massacre.[40][41][42]

May 16, 1986 Cokeville, Wyoming,

United States
David Young
Doris Young 2 dead, 79 injured 2 79 Cokeville Elementary School hostage crisis. David Young, and his wife Doris Young, took 167 children and adults hostage at Cokeville Elementary School. After a two-and-a-half hour standoff, a gasoline bomb the couple was carrying went off prematurely, injuring Doris Young while David Young was out of the room. Returning to the scene, David Young shot his wife, and then himself. All the hostages escaped, though 79 were later hospitalized with burns and injuries.

May 20, 1988 Winnetka, Illinois, United States Laurie Dann, 30 2 dead, 6 injured 2 6 Laurie Dann walked into a second grade classroom at Hubbard Woods Elementary School carrying a pistol and two revolvers and began shooting children, killing eight-year-old Nicholas Corwin and wounding five others before fleeing. She entered a nearby house where she had shot and wounded a 20-year-old man before killing herself.

September 23, 1988 Chicago, Illinois, United States Clemmie Henderson, 40 5 dead,

2 injured
5 2 Armed with a .38 caliber pistol, 40-year-old Clemmie Henderson shot two people dead at an auto parts store and wounded a garbage man before entering Montefiore Special Elementary School where he killed a school custodian and a police officer. He wounded another police officer before he was shot and killed.[44]

September 26, 1988 Greenwood, South Carolina, United States James William Wilson, 19 2 dead, 9 injured 2 9 James Wilson, 19, took a .22-caliber pistol to Oakland Elementary School where he shot and killed two students and injured seven other students and two teachers.[45][46][47] Wilson was sentenced to death by electric chair.

January 17, 1989 Stockton, California, United States Patrick Purdy, 24 6 dead, 30 injured 6 30 Patrick Purdy shot and killed five schoolchildren, and wounded 29 other schoolchildren and one teacher on the playground of Cleveland Elementary School. The shooting ended with Purdy committing suicide.

And of course I could go on and on... and that's all before we had this :

The Gun-Free School Zones Act (GFSZA, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 922(q)) is a federal United States law that prohibits any individual from knowingly possessing a firearm at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a "school zone" as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(25). Its formal title is the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 and is sometimes referred to as the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1995, possibly in reference to S. 890

 

[hermannr]

So let's see....

January 29, 1979 San Diego, California,

United States
Brenda Ann Spencer, 16 2 dead, 9 injured 2 9 Armed with a .22-rifle, 16-year-old Brenda Ann Spencer opened fire at Cleveland Elementary School, killing two adults and wounding eight children and one police officer. Spencer was later apprehended after a six-hour stand-off, and she was asked of her motive for the killing, to which she shrugged and infamously replied "I don't like Mondays. This livens up the day."

February 24, 1984 Los Angeles, California, United States Tyrone Mitchell, 28 2 dead, 13 injured 2 13 At 2:23 p.m. 28-year-old Tyrone Mitchell began shooting at students leaving 49th Street Elementary School in Los Angeles with a 12-gauge shotgun and a rifle from a second-floor window of a building across the street. He killed a 10-year-old girl and wounded 11 other children, as well as a schoolyard supervisor and a passer-by. When police finally stormed the building they found Mitchell's body, who had killed himself with the shotgun. Mitchell had lost his parents, grandmother, brother and four sisters in the Jonestown massacre.[40][41][42]

May 16, 1986 Cokeville, Wyoming,

United States
David Young
Doris Young 2 dead, 79 injured 2 79 Cokeville Elementary School hostage crisis. David Young, and his wife Doris Young, took 167 children and adults hostage at Cokeville Elementary School. After a two-and-a-half hour standoff, a gasoline bomb the couple was carrying went off prematurely, injuring Doris Young while David Young was out of the room. Returning to the scene, David Young shot his wife, and then himself. All the hostages escaped, though 79 were later hospitalized with burns and injuries.

May 20, 1988 Winnetka, Illinois, United States Laurie Dann, 30 2 dead, 6 injured 2 6 Laurie Dann walked into a second grade classroom at Hubbard Woods Elementary School carrying a pistol and two revolvers and began shooting children, killing eight-year-old Nicholas Corwin and wounding five others before fleeing. She entered a nearby house where she had shot and wounded a 20-year-old man before killing herself.

September 23, 1988 Chicago, Illinois, United States Clemmie Henderson, 40 5 dead,

2 injured
5 2 Armed with a .38 caliber pistol, 40-year-old Clemmie Henderson shot two people dead at an auto parts store and wounded a garbage man before entering Montefiore Special Elementary School where he killed a school custodian and a police officer. He wounded another police officer before he was shot and killed.[44]

September 26, 1988 Greenwood, South Carolina, United States James William Wilson, 19 2 dead, 9 injured 2 9 James Wilson, 19, took a .22-caliber pistol to Oakland Elementary School where he shot and killed two students and injured seven other students and two teachers.[45][46][47] Wilson was sentenced to death by electric chair.

January 17, 1989 Stockton, California, United States Patrick Purdy, 24 6 dead, 30 injured 6 30 Patrick Purdy shot and killed five schoolchildren, and wounded 29 other schoolchildren and one teacher on the playground of Cleveland Elementary School. The shooting ended with Purdy committing suicide.

And of course I could go on and on... and that's all before we had this :

The Gun-Free School Zones Act (GFSZA, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 922(q)) is a federal United States law that prohibits any individual from knowingly possessing a firearm at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a "school zone" as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(25). Its formal title is the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 and is sometimes referred to as the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1995, possibly in reference to S. 890

Did you notice that every one of the cites you quote are POST-GCA68????

 

[fd15k]

Did you notice that every one of the cites you quote are POST-GCA68????

My intention was to list only stuff before GFSZA.

June 7, 1960 Blaine, Minnesota, United States Lester Betts, 40 1 dead 1 Lester Betts, a 40-year-old mail-carrier, walked into the office of 33-year-old principal Carson Hammond and shot him to death with a 12-gauge shotgun.[32]

February 2, 1960 Hartford City, Indiana, United States Leonard O. Redden, 44 3 dead 3 Principal Leonard Redden shot and killed two teachers with a shotgun at William Reed Elementary School in Hartford City, Indiana, before fleeing into a remote forest, where he committed suicide.[30][31]

September 12, 1940 Uniontown, Pennsylvania, United States William Kuhns, 35 1 dead, 1 injured 1 1 29-year-old teacher Carolyn Dellamea is shot to death inside her third grade classroom by 35-year-old William Kuhns. Kuhns then shot himself in the chest in a failed suicide attempt. Kuhns had reportedly been courting Dellamea for over a year but the relationship was ended when Dellamea discovered that Kuhns was already married.[25]

February 15, 1933 Downey, California, United States Vernon Blythe, 35 3 dead 3 Dr. Vernon Blythe shot and killed his wife Eleanor, as well as his 8-year old son Robert at Gallatin grammar school and committed suicide after firing three more shots at his other son Vernon. His wife, who had been a teacher at the school, had filed for divorce the week before.[24]

January 30, 1968 Miami, Florida, United States Blanche Patricia Ward, 16 1 dead 16-year-old Blanche Ward shot and killed fellow student Linda Lipscomb, 16, with a .22-caliber pistol at Miami Jackson High School. According to Ward, she was threatened with a razor by Lipscomb during an argument over a fountain pen, and in the ensuing struggle the gun went off.[52]

October 5, 1966 Grand Rapids, Minnesota

United States
David M. Black Jr., 15 1 dead 1 injured David Black, a 15-year-old student at Grand Rapids High School, arrived at the school with a .22 caliber pistol which he used to shoot student Kevin Roth and administrator Forrest L. Willey. Willey died of his wound eight days later.[49]

April 27, 1966 Bay Shore, New York, United States James Arthur Frampton, 16 1 dead Teacher John S. Lane, 48, was shot and fatally wounded when he tried to stop 16-year-old student James Arthur Frampton, who was walking through the halls of Bay Shore Senior High School with a shotgun, searching for some boys with whom he had an argument earlier that day. Lane died of his wounds on June 13, 1966.[46][47][48]

okay, got to skip those with few fatalities...

May 6, 1940 South Pasadena, California,

United States
Verlin Spencer, 38 5 dead 2 injured After being removed as principal of South Pasadena Junior High School, Verlin Spencer shot six school officials, killing five, before attempting to commit suicide by shooting himself in the stomach. He was later sentenced to five consecutive life sentences, and was released early on parole in 1970.[25][26]

November 12, 1966 Mesa, Arizona, United States Robert Benjamin Smith, 18 5 dead,
2 injured 5 2 Bob Smith, 18, took seven people hostage at Rose-Mar College of Beauty, a school for training beauticians. Smith ordered the hostages to lie down on the floor in a circle. He then proceeded to shoot them in the head with a 22-caliber pistol. Four women and a three-year-old girl died, one woman and a baby were injured but survived. Police arrested Smith after the massacre. Smith had reportedly admired Richard Speck and Charles Whitman.[19]

August 1, 1966 Austin, Texas, United States Charles Whitman, 25 18 dead,
31 injured 18 31 University of Texas Clock Tower shootings. After killing his wife and mother, Charles Whitman pointed a rifle from the observation deck of the University of Texas at Austin's Tower and began shooting for 96 minutes. He killed fifteen people and wounded 31 others before being shot dead by police. David Gunby was wounded in the shooting but died 35 years later after ceasing kidney dialysis treatments stemming from the shooting.

So yeah, the only thing I can see as a pattern is that more of those attacks were personal in the older days, than just pointless slaughter in modern days.

 

[chemist]

Fixed it for you

Thank you for your carefully worded, well-reasoned, logical argument. It's exactly what I expected.