A sampling of antique guns...

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    DSC06557.jpg
    Belgium Flintlock .20 Trade Gun.Circa 1900. DSC06619 (1).jpg
    1850's era St. Louis .50 caliber Plains Rifle. DSC03431.jpg
    1760's era Pocket Pistol by Joseph Barbar of London. DSC06561.jpg
    Combination Gun .12 gauge smooth bore / .44 rifled... Circa 1850's . Note the locks are new replacements. P1110224[1].JPG
    Inside of a Flintlock ... In this case a lock from Brander & Potts ... Made guns and locks from 1800-1830 London. P1110225[1].JPG
    Inside of a percussion lock... In this case a unmarked lock from a Trade Pistol circa 1860's.
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    P1110070.JPG
    Top: A flintlock trade rifle made by J.P. Lower circa 1840's-50's
    Bottom : Child Pratt & Co. St. Louis rifle .32 caliber circa 1840's-50's P1110071.JPG
    Three different styles of patch boxes from Pennsylvaina Longrifles of the flintlock era.
    Left to right:
    #1 A Lancaster County style patch box circa 1780
    #2 A Berks County style patch box circa 1800-1820's
    #3 A Bedford County style patch box circa 1800-1820's DSC06576.jpg
    1873 Springfield Infantry rifle ... AKA "Trapdoor Springfield". This one is from 1883
    Note: sling is a incorrect replacement and the arrow is a modern replica P1110069.JPG
    Middle gun : A flintlock Northwest Trade Gun , made by Parker Field 1834 ... Converted later to percussion
     
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    I like that last one.:D
     
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    Thanks aflineman ... that is a sweet shooting gun for sure.
    .20 gauge , a 36 inch barrel , walnut stock and a bit of tack work.
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    Me thinks you know a thing or two about Kentucky windage. :)
     
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    Such beautiful work on those old guns. Amazing to think how much labor by real craftsmen must have gone into those things.
     
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    Cigars,
    Sure do ... The sights on most antique Muzzle loaders are" fixed".
    Although you can drift them for windage or add to the front sight or file it down for elevation issues.
    One learns what load the rifle likes and where to hold in order to hit at a given range.
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    Yes indeed.
    That gun in particular is a Trade Gun and not a fine grade or "Chiefs Grade" gun ... So it would be a "base model".
    But given that , lots of hand finishing and fit were done on Trade Guns and Rifles.
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    No matchlocks?
     
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    Former Machinist by trade so it always impresses me. Since I know how hard this would be to do by hand even with modern machines. Can just imagine what they had to do. Last time I was in college for more training our instructor had us make our own tooling from chunks of tool steel. Then use it to make our own tools like T bolts and hammers. One test was he would grind the end of a drill bit flat. Hand it to you and you had to re make it and drill a hole with it to show it would work strait. A lot of the younger guys hated this part. All they wanted to learn was the computerized stuff. I enjoyed the crap out of the learning how to do this even if I was never going to do it in the trade. Still have a few of the things I made all those years ago. So I guess I can understand better than some how impressive those guys were. Real skill learned at the hands of a master.
     
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    Andy, you have some seriously nice smoke poles. Thanks for the pics and information. :)
     
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    Thanks GOG ... I'll be posting more as time allows...:D
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    No not yet.
    I am trying to focus on the American frontier with a heavy focus on guns from the 1830's on-wards.
    I have fired a matchlock replica .. and there were some here in America early .. but I would want an original match the other originals shown or in my collection... and that gets expensive...:eek::D
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    I would love to know if mine is capable of being shot. Someday Andy you will get the opportunity to give it a once over. :) 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 5.jpg 6.jpg

    I'll have to get better pictures some day of this beauty.
     
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    Hey I'm looking for a nice Side x Side to add to my collection ....you wouldn't to have one handy SKruger?:eek::p:D
    I really need to see that gun.....:D
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    Rains too much here anyhow. :D

    You have some beautiful boomers.
     
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    Yes you do. If I decide to sell my family eirloom believe me you would be the first call I would make. Knowing it was in good hands would make all the difference in the world. ;):)
     
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    Iron mounted.jpg
    Two iron mounted rifles.
    Top : Tennessee rifle , circa 1840. Notice the grease hole in the stock
    Bottom : Virginia rifle , circa 1800. Converted from flint to percussion
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    Front sights ... Notice that they are low and have mostly "rounded" edges.
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    two front sights of bone or ivory. Rod Ends.jpg
    Ramrods ... Notice no "cleaning jag grooves" on the tips , just plain brass or steel.
    Also take note of the taper on the bottom end.
    The middle end has a "ball puller"
    The bottom rod has a patch puller / cleaning worm attached.
    Original ramrods as rule, are much more slender than the ones made or used today
     
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