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300BLK as a bear gun

Discussion in 'Northwest Hunting' started by Whitey375, May 21, 2013.

  1. Whitey375

    Whitey375 Eugene, Oregon Active Member

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    Thinking about building a 300 upper for a short range bear gun. Area we usually hunt is generally 150 yards and under. Ballistics are 30-30 ish. Anyone whack a bear with one?

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  2. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Assuming Black bear? Hunting in Oregon?
     
  3. Whitey375

    Whitey375 Eugene, Oregon Active Member

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    Yup, coast range blacks in Oregon.

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  4. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    I will just say this.... make sure you use the right bullet and speed combination.......
     
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  5. Whitey375

    Whitey375 Eugene, Oregon Active Member

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    As in like 110gr Barnes as fast as possible?

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  6. Silver Hand

    Silver Hand Southern Oregon Coast Well-Known Member

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    Probably more game has been taken with the 30/30 than any other round. Closer than 150 yards for any animal would be a good consideration using a similar cartridge too, or the 30/30. The closer the better.
    I have seen a .30 carbine with a 110 grain RN pill do the job at less than 30 feet. That is under 1,000 Ft Pounds of energy point blank. The 30/30 with a 170 grain pill will about match that at or around 150 yards.
    Bullet placement is the most important thing to consider and with the numbers in energy foot pounds this low! Well It does not leave you much room for mistakes. Wounding an animal is the last thing I want to do!
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  7. 2506

    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Every time this topic of discussion comes up, someone will no doubt pitch in that you have to have AT MINIMUM a .400 Wundershooter.
    In reality, most blackies are under 200 pounds and are fairly fragile critters. I've shot a few with my 2506 and never felt undergunned. I think a 300BLK would almost be ideal with a ten round mag. My favorite bear-gitter is my Ruger 1894 in 44 mag.
     
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    Silver Hand Southern Oregon Coast Well-Known Member

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    From what I understand, with few exceptions large magazines [Over Five Rounds] are not legal to hunt with.
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  9. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    In Oregon semi autos are limited to 5 rounds. Bolt action or lever have no limits.
     
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  10. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Depends on where you live. 2506 lives in WA and we do not have mag capacity limit.
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    From what I understand, with no exceptions my state doesn't have a limit on capacity. Sorry, I didn't notice the OP was in Oregon.
     
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    Silver Hand Southern Oregon Coast Well-Known Member

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    Did you state you have a Ruger 1894 in a .44 Cal.?
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  13. Silver Hand

    Silver Hand Southern Oregon Coast Well-Known Member

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    I read where he lives before I responded to the post.
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  14. 2506

    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I got ahead of myself...Marlin 94 in .44 mag.
     
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    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    get closer, less than 75 yards would be better. Heard reports of bears walking away when hit at with 30-30 at long range.
     
  16. Whitey375

    Whitey375 Eugene, Oregon Active Member

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    Copy that. Most ranges in this area are a good bow shot, 30-60 yards. 150 is the maximum you can see, much less thread a bullet through it, and that is only in a few places. I think it's doable, based on the helpful posts in this thread, now I just need parts. Thinking 18" lighter weight bbl, VX-R 1.5-4, and a relatively smooth handguard. Anyone have another idea(s)?

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    Whitey375 Eugene, Oregon Active Member

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    We used to knock them out of the trees with a Ruger Deerfield 44 carbine. Works good.

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  18. Oregonhunter5

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    I wouldn't do it.
    Not enough energy. Bears need bone breaking pills. But I'm sure some dude will remind me he's killed 1,500 bears with a 25-06
     
  19. Whitey375

    Whitey375 Eugene, Oregon Active Member

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    Here's the thing though, using a 110-130gr Barnes, which is basically equivalent to a 30-30 with 150's, right? How many bears have fallen to a good ol dirty 30? And for the record, I would shoot a bear, at reasonable ranges, in a second with my 257 Ackley and some 100gr TSX in a second.

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  20. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    How many bears have you killed?
    Ever shot and lost a bear? I have, and it sucks.