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30-30 bullets in .308 loads

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Benchrest, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. Benchrest

    Benchrest The Desert Planet Well-Known Member

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    Guys


    I've been reloading for a little over a year, and have always purchased components specific to the caliber (duh). Recently I had the chance to buy, what I assume are, .308 dia bullets designed for 30-30 loads. The thought at the time was "hey, at least I'll have them".

    A quick check doesn't show any loads for these bullets in .308, but I do have QUICKload, so I could start there (I don't hunt, so 'designed for expansion at X velocity' doesn't apply).

    Am I wasting my time? Am I wasting a quality bullet that should be traded?

    Thoughts?

    Thanks!

    Jason

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  2. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The problem is, if it is a bullet manufactured in the last decade or two, and probably even before that, then it is probably designed for a certain velocity range specific to .30-30 loads, not 7.62x51 loads.

    This was a problem I had back in the early 70s when there wasn't much 7mm mag ammo out there; I got some Remington 150 gr. SP ammo and they would blow up on anything under 200 yards - most likely because Remington used a bullet designed more for 7x57 ammo than something that drives that bullet much faster.

    Given that, if you are sure they are for the .30-30 (not just because they are FP) - by looking at the bullet part no. and cross checking - then there are reduced loads you could use them in.

    Otherwise I would save them for a .30-30 or comparable load, or trade them for something more appropriate for your intended use.
     
  3. Mongo1

    Mongo1 Santiam Canyon Active Member

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    I have some 308 cartridges with 100 grain bullets. what weight/diameter are your "30 30" bullets
     
  4. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    I used to have a 308 w/16.5 inch barrel. I used to load 93 grn mauser pistol bullets, 100 grn Plinkers, 110 grn hollow points and 150 grn 30-30 bullets, they all worked great. the 30-30 bullet has a thinner jacket but that is no dis advantage unless your hunting elk/bear
     
  5. Benchrest

    Benchrest The Desert Planet Well-Known Member

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    Mongo

    Both the Speer & Nosler are 150gr and .308 in diameter.

     
  6. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Either use em' or trade/sell them to someone who actually needs 30-30 bullets as they are really hard to find right now. On the 'flip side' I am using up some 150 Gr. Spire Point bullets IN my 30-30 because I have them and have no other need for them. The up side is they really flatten out the trajectory with a noticeable improvement in accuracy.
     
  7. Benchrest

    Benchrest The Desert Planet Well-Known Member

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    Thanks RVTECH and all else who chimed in - yeah, that's what I was thinking, probably best just to trade them to someone who can use them.


    Jason

     
  8. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Probably make a nifty varmint blower upper. I'd shoot the heck outa those.
     
  9. sneakboxer

    sneakboxer NW OR Active Member

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    I loaded up some Hornady (#3035) 150gr 30-30 bullets in my 308 and they shot really well. Hornady only rates them to 2500fps so they might be a little explosive up close for medium game. I think i was running them at 2600 and getting .75in groups at 100yds. I also loaded one with TrailBoss and they were a blast at something like 1800fps. The TB loads would be a good load to start young shooters or plink with. I would not call your purchase a waste unless you are looking to break shoulders up close or shoot past 300yds. They will kill paper just fine.
    Best of luck,
     
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  10. stavros4570

    stavros4570 eugene,or. Member

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    I shoot those alot in 308. I weight sort them and use them for subsonics. Great!
     
  11. oremike

    oremike Creswell, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I made a similar mistake, I bought some Hornaday 150gr RN's for my '06. I called Hornaday and was told they would not be good hunting bullets at less than 300 yards because I was pushing them at about 2900 fps out the barrel. That said they shoot a 1/2" group at 100 yds. I'll use them on things I don't want to eat like milk jugs full of water and Tannerite.
     
  12. John Gault

    John Gault clackamas county Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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