21 foot rule

[EPS]

I agree - but please know that Tueller is a concept - proven with active duty police drawing drawing from a duty holster against a charging opponent - and 21 feet is the number that worked for with a consistent 2 second draw and shoot time. FOR OTHERS the concept should be applied for instance - what is your draw and shoot time from your concealment holster? Multiply that time by the approximate 10 feet per second of a charging BG and see what distance you get. Ideally record your notes and then be able to articulate why you shot the BG with a contact weapon when he was still 10 feet away. ANY CONTACT WITH A CONTACT WEAPON IS POTENTIALLY LETHAL - act accordingly.

Also remember this when you and if you end up in court there going to say he had a knife and was 21 feet away from you why did you shoot him HE WAS NOT A THREAT TO YOU GET A GUN LAWYER

 

[Flopsweat]

I agree - but please know that Tueller is a concept - proven with active duty police drawing drawing from a duty holster against a charging opponent - and 21 feet is the number that worked for with a consistent 2 second draw and shoot time. FOR OTHERS the concept should be applied for instance - what is your draw and shoot time from your concealment holster? Multiply that time by the approximate 10 feet per second of a charging BG and see what distance you get. Ideally record your notes and then be able to articulate why you shot the BG with a contact weapon when he was still 10 feet away. ANY CONTACT WITH A CONTACT WEAPON IS POTENTIALLY LETHAL - act accordingly.

Now this, this is what you don't hear from instructors enough.

 

[Brutus57]

Tacoma is generally much safer than it used to be in the down town area. The cops pushed the gang bangers out of the down town core to the east and south. Say beyond 35th St. MLK Way is still sketchy but not the war zone it used to be. Plus with Aero Precision in the down town area and Surplus Ammo and Arms there as well, there are lots of armed civvies.

Brutus Out

 

[clearconscience]

Any state, city or neighborhood if your around MLK street your in a bad area

 

[Flopsweat]

Any state, city or neighborhood if your around MLK street your in a bad area

Heh, when I used to travel occasionally for business I learned to look for MLKJ Blvd if I wanted some good BBQ. Seriously good BBQ. Now I have to watch the spicy food. I can still have cornbread though!

 

[EPS]

Any state, city or neighborhood if your around MLK street your in a bad area

That's true MLK street means you're on the wrong street roll your window up and don't stop at red lights just do a red light roll through

 

[Flopsweat]

That's true MLK street means you're on the wrong street roll your window up and don't stop at red lights just do a red light roll through

Nah. I've sat down to eat on MLK or MLK Jr. ST\DR\BLVD in a few different cities and never even been looked at funny. And I'm not a guy who projects NTBFW.

 

[EPS]

Nah. I've sat down to eat on MLK or MLK Jr. ST\DR\BLVD in a few different cities and never even been looked at funny. And I'm not a guy who projects NTBFW.

I have been on plenty of mlk streets but not after 00:30 your on your own

 

[EPS]

The funny thing is that if MLK himself was still here a man that just wanted peace and Equality would be slapping the F@%$ out of these idiot 's

 

[Flopsweat]

The funny thing is that if MLK himself was still here a man that just wanted peace and Equality would be slapping the F@%$ out of these idiot 's

Well sure, but he was trying to make positive changes through peace, love and understanding, not amass a personal fortune by manipulating emotions. So it's not a fair comparison to the current crop of "community organizers", and you can't expect the same results.