Poll: White light skill level

[RBB4ME]

The days are getting shorter, nights getting longer. We all need some kind of light to see sometimes…

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[Member 53328]

One on the gun and another in the pocket. Train with both.

 

[titsonritz]

Yeah, I like playing in the dark. WL, NV it's all good. I'm seeing shift in my training toward low/no light and FoF.

 

[titsonritz]

One on the gun and another in the pocket. Train with both.

Which should be a choice in the OP poll (and why I didn't select one)

 

[Member 53328]

Which should be a choice in the OP poll (and why I didn't select one)

Same. I don't limit myself to one white light and I obviously use the one in my pocket much more often then the one on my carry gun.

 

[Joe13]

point light in desired direction. Push on button…..


I carry a very good flashlight on me at all times - when I work it feels like the world started using phone lights and they just aren't even in the same class as a good flashlight.

I use my light so often I do not fee the need to train with it.

 

[Member 66129]

I have a WML on all but the smallest of my pistols, and carry a Cloud Defensive MCH for both work and real world application.

 

[thorborg]

I agree with others, a second light option should have been included in the poll.
I just can't get into weapon mounted light only for personal carry. Left on its own, it seems to fly in the face of gun safety. In order to have one, I would have to do like others here who seem to take the added thoughtfulness to carry a second light, but with gun, knife, keys, spare ammo, old age etc. I really don't want to carry a second light.
I do carry a rechargeable with an amazingly bright high beam and no tricks to operate; thumb push on and push more for blinding or distance bright boost.

 

[bbbass]

Well dang.... too bad there wasn't ability to pick more than one answer!!

I have a WML on three of my HD weapons, one a Glock, one 12ga, and one AR shorty. My nightstand drawer gun is a Public Defender, so I have a tactical light there

IMO, the WMLs don't really require training if they are sighted in so that the bullet meets the center of the thrown spot of light at the usual distance one expects to use deadly force. Push button, aim light, pull trigger. The only question is whether to keep light on continuously or intermittently as needed. That's not training, that's a personal choice.

Handheld lights require a small amount of training to obtain a useful firing grip/position between gun hand and light hand, and them some practice because it's basically shooting single hand with some support. I've seen some awful grips taken up with a handheld light... best to get it all pounded out ahead of need. BTW also have to decide if one wants to hold the taclight high and away from defender, or to support the gun hand.

 

[titsonritz]

IMO, the WMLs don't really require training <snip>

Personally, I found WML training illuminating.

 

[Ura-Ki]

N.V and Lo Lumin off weapon light, 20+ years very highly trained, Thanks Tax Payer!

 

[Member 53328]

My pocket light isn't super expensive and has taken a beating but it's still working. All I have to do is stay regimented on swapping out the batteries.

 

[RBB4ME]

Which should be a choice in the OP poll (and why I didn't select one)

My favorite posts are always those that criticize the poll. Where is your poll then?

Answer the question.

As far as training, there are learning curves to both WML and OGLs. WML, from your opponent''s perspective, point back to your center of mass because they are mounted to the gun and are located at your center-line.

OGLs are by their nature off-line, but require training and practice to see what you need to see. All of this is academic though, and beneath some who want a better poll.

Great! Then create it.

 

[Member 53328]

Yea @titsonritz ….. This guy knows all.

 

[RBB4ME]

Yea @titsonritz ….. This guy knows all.

Nope, looking to learn. But saying, "I would ask better questions", is a cop-out.

 

[Member 53328]

My favorite posts are always those that criticize the poll. Where is your poll then?

Answer the question.

As far as training, there are learning curves to both WML and OGLs. WML, from your opponent''s perspective, point back to your center of mass because they are mounted to the gun and are located at your center-line.

OGLs are by their nature off-line, but require training and practice to see what you need to see. All of this is academic though, and beneath some who want a better poll.

Great! Then create it.

Can't answer a poll if the option that applies to you isn't listed.

Hence the comment.

 

[RBB4ME]

Can't answer a poll if the option that applies to you isn't listed.

Hence the comment.

Then create a better poll. It's just a question with options, Friend. Make a better one…

 

[Member 53328]

Then create a better poll. It's just the a question with options, Friend. Make a better one…

I don't care enough about what other do enough to create one. Haha.

 

[Ura-Ki]

Can't answer a poll if the option that applies to you isn't listed.

Hence the comment.

Zacklies! Some of us are old school before mounted lights were a thing, and some of us have proven time and time again that the old School is still the best school, as we did it against the new school under intense training and we did it down range for real!
The poll simply doesn't cover enough options, so we offer other alternate options in the discussions to not only highlight those options, but why! This is the whole purpose of said discussions, so keep on!

 

[RBB4ME]

Zacklies! Some of us are old school before mounted lights were a thing, and some of us have proven time and time again that the old School is still the best school, as we did it against the new school under intense training and we did it down range for real!
The poll simply doesn't cover enough options, so we offer other alternate options in the discussions to not only highlight those options, but why! This is the whole purpose of said discussions, so keep on!

Well OK! I personally hate weapon-mounted lights for the reasons I alluded to. They are pretty good for front end recoil reduction on a handgun. But from your opponent's perspective, the beam comes straight back to your center of mass.

Was trained by former SEALs to use an OGL in order to keep the light away from your centerline. The principles and techniques are very useful in most environments, except maybe going down a flight of stairs. Was wondering if there is different training or practice techniques out their. Wanted to know what others are learning to use to identify good guys from bad and how often they train and practice.

Oh well, thought I'd ask. As Wayne Gretzky said, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."