what then makes a firearm "NOT fun"???

[kisfish]

when you buy it in wa state.....
When it's out of your price range and you have to craft a good story why you still bought it......

 

[mkwerx]

I'd add to that oddball ammo. It invariable makes logistics a PITA.

Yeah, while I was in Texas, my dad showed me his collection. Its modest, mostly heirloom stuff. He's got a break top Iver Johnson .38 that takes a short .38 of some sort - its certainly not .38 Special - it looks like it would take a round roughly the size of a 9x19mm or a .380 ACP in case length. Neat little gun, but I can't imagine finding ammo for it would be all that easy.

 

[CountryGent]

Yeah, while I was in Texas, my dad showed me his collection. Its modest, mostly heirloom stuff. He's got a break top Iver Johnson .38 that takes a short .38 of some sort - its certainly not .38 Special - it looks like it would take a round roughly the size of a 9x19mm or a .380 ACP in case length. Neat little gun, but I can't imagine finding ammo for it would be all that easy.

It may be .38 S&W. Certainly not interchangeable with .38 Special. I can only find it online for my Enfield No. 2.

 

[shibbershabber]

If it doesnt work.

Ill enjoy shooting pretty much anything, as long as it goes bang

 

[edslhead]

 

[mkwerx]

It may be .38 S&W. Certainly not interchangeable with .38 Special. I can only find it online for my Enfield No. 2.

Next time we're down there, I'm gonna take a closer look. You're probably right about that. Dad said the revolver was originally acquired by his dad and got passed to his brother, then onto him after his brother died, along with a sporterized Mosin Nagant. The Mosin needs extractors, he says that it keeps breaking the extractor claws. It also has a crack in the stock that needs a little work. His sporterized gun is a bit lighter to shoot than any of the Mosins I've owned, I can only imagine how much less pleasant it will be to shoot

 

[JRuby]

Not being able to hit what I am shooting at because of the firearm
- yes its a poor craftsman that blames his tools but there are simply some firearms that I find difficult to be accurate with

 

[oremike]

It may be .38 S&W. Certainly not interchangeable with .38 Special. I can only find it online for my Enfield No. 2.

I make 38 S&W and yes not the same as 38 special it uses a .361 dia bullet where the 38 special uses a .357 dia bullet.

 

[mkwerx]

I make 38 S&W and yes not the same as 38 special it uses a .361 dia bullet where the 38 special uses a .357 dia bullet.

Whats the case length like? Similar to a 9x19?

 

[Boboclown]

When its an American copy of a certain foreign designed rifle designed by many countries that managed to not mess it up.

 

[Capn Jack]

If the recoil is too heavy....Shot a lighter bullet.
If it's too noisy...Double up on your protection.
If you can't hit anything with it...Let someone else try....It may be you.
If it doesn't work right...Fix it, or let someone else fix it. It's only a machine.
If you just plain don't like it...Someone else probably will.
My guns are just machines that I enjoy building, loading for and shooting.
I get just as big a thrill hitting a target with my Matchlock at 25 yards as I do
hitting a target at 100 yards with my .458

 

[oremike]

Whats the case length like? Similar to a 9x19?

case length for the 38 S&W is .775" and the case length for the 9x19 is .754" so the 38 S&W is a little longer but not much.

 

[WillametteWill]

Poor grip design causing pain (Walther PPK)
Goes full auto as it disassembles itself (Leader T2)
Needs to go back for repairs after purchase with being built in the "custom shop" (Kimber x3)
It's a Ruger Mk I, II or III and you are the one who has to clean it.

That's all...pretty much like everything else.

 

[slimmer13]

Too small (mouse guns)
Trigger slap on an AK
too expensive ($4+ and a short bbl life on some of the whiz bang magnums)

 

[Member 34319]

Crappy ergonomics, poor reliability, excessive recoil, excessively expensive ammunition

After this, not much else comes to mind.

 

[bikemutt]

When the words "Kel-Tec" or "Hi-Point" are stamped on it.

It's not often I defend an underdog, they mostly earn their reputation.

Kel-Tec does make some dogs, no denying that.

I have a PMR-30 and CMR-30 both in .22 mag that are 100% reliable and fun as all get out to shoot.

The missus and I have a pair of KSG scatter guns that are equally reliable and even more fun to shoot.

When it counts, it's Sig and S&W for me, but for fun, Kel-Tec is worth checking out

 

[teflon6string]

Bitter, windy day near Memphis, TN. River was frozen over with ice. Either the hammer or the slide on my friend's tiny no-name .25 or .32 semi-auto bit my bare hand. Right on that super tender web between the thumb and index finger. Drew a little blood, which stopped immediately because it was that cold. Showed my buddy, and his reply was, "Yeah, ain't that a piece of shjt?" Awful little thing! Why even own something like that? Maybe for a throwdown in a bad-cop movie?

 

[CountryGent]

I have a PMR-30 and CMR-30 both in .22 mag that are 100% reliable and fun as all get out to shoot.

This kind of illustrates the concern I have with Kel-tec moving forward. I have one of their pocket pistols since 2006 that is great. However, the CMR-30 we got for the Mrs was a complete and utter POS. Tried multiple different ammo, sent it back to the factory, cleaned/lubed, whatever, et al., could never, ever get it it to cycle through an entire magazine without multiple malfunctions. We ended up dumping it. Don't get me wrong, I totally believe your carbine runs like a top; no doubt in my mind. I just don't like playing the lottery, be it the one .gov runs, or that from the company out of Florida.

 

[Xaevian]

Recoil that leaves a bruise or causes so much fatigue that my shoulder and arm shake after 30 or more rounds. ARs in 5.56 or .223 (boring). Scopes that don't hold zero, sights that shift or fall off or other mechanical malfunctions. Glocks or S&W autos. Guns that eject rounds in your face, on your head, or worse, down your shirt-front or back. Losing my reloading brass so I end up with an odd number. Constant target malfunctions (blow over, fall down, stand failure, etc)

Oh, and when the spouse calls every 15 minutes to ask when I will be done.

 

[Alexx1401]

For me as with many, #1 is a gun that just does not work. No matter the action type if it will not work and I can't get it working it's gone. For me nothing ruins a day of fun at the range faster than a damn gun that will not work.
#2 for me has to be guns that are just painful to shoot. Long ago when I started to carry we had nothing like the selection we have now. I tried a few small light .357's. None of them were kept. Even with better grips I could never shoot them worth a damn. Another is the little LCPII. When we got it I ran many boxes of ammo through it to function test it. It was painful after the first box. Now I do love the pistol as it's proven it works and is amazingly easy to carry. Now when I shoot it I put a few mags through it and it is great. Certainly NOT something I look forward to playing with.