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Crappy ergonomics, poor reliability, excessive recoil, excessively expensive ammunition
Me too. Perfect description of a Desert Eagle in 50AE. Too heavy to carry, crappy ergonomics, poor reliability, brutal recoil and exspensive ammo.
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.38 Short Colt, .38 S&W, .38 S&W Special ... Note although the .38 Short Colt can be fired in a .38 Special revolver, the .38 S&W cannot.


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Cool - yeah its got to be one of the two shorties there. Dad thought his gun was a Smith & Wesson made gun, till I pointed out the butt said Iver Johnson, so I'm guessing it's a .38 S&W chambered gun. Next time we visit, I'll try to double check, maybe even get him into a gunshop / gunsmith to verify the right caliber.
 
Cool - yeah its got to be one of the two shorties there. Dad thought his gun was a Smith & Wesson made gun, till I pointed out the butt said Iver Johnson, so I'm guessing it's a .38 S&W chambered gun. Next time we visit, I'll try to double check, maybe even get him into a gunshop / gunsmith to verify the right caliber.

Remember, .38 S&W is a cartridge nomenclature, so yes, many of the old Iver Johnson Safety Revolvers were chambered for the .38 S&W cartridge. Also be careful, only later variations of the Iver Johnson Safety Revolver were safe to use smokeless cartridges. The previous models, although very similar in appearance, were designed for black powder cartridges.

I have an old Iver Johnson Safety .38 S&W revolver, and it's a distinct pleasure to shoot with these rather anemic .38 S&W cartridges.:)

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Remember, .38 S&W is a cartridge nomenclature, so yes, many of the old Iver Johnson Safety Revolvers were chambered for the .38 S&W cartridge. Also be careful, only later variations of the Iver Johnson Safety Revolver were safe to use smokeless cartridges. The previous models, although very similar in appearance, were designed for black powder cartridges.

I have an old Iver Johnson Safety .38 S&W revolver, and it's a distinct pleasure to shoot with these rather anemic .38 S&W cartridges.:)

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That would be the gun he has, right there. Finish on his is a little more worn off, but that's the gun.
 
When it hurts to shoot it - e.g., my 329 PD - it literally draws blood sometimes. Another one was a Grendel .380 which bruised my hand and the trigger was gross. By comparison my 460V is a pussycat.

When it does not function well - e.g., my Mitchell Luger which has yet to get thru a full mag without jamming.
 
Old beater Winchester Model 70 in .300 Win Mag, rock hard factory recoil pad. Not fun to shoot. No wonder it was a "low round count" piece.
 
Those old Ramline 25 and 50 rd mags for the 10/22 used to work a few times and then start jamming more and more until they were useless. Mad frustrating. Mine all went in the garbage can 20 years ago.
 
Some folks do...It gets as I said tiresome at best.
And yeah I do at times wonder just what happened to :
If you can't say something nice...Don't say anything at all.
Andy

One of my buddies and I grew up using traditional black powder rifles and pistols. And I'll tell you, there isn't too many guns that are funner than shooting them. However, my buddy went over to the inline black powder rifles. His roots are with traditional, but he also has a respect for the new technology. I don't really see anything wrong with either one, except they aint no AR15 :p:D. I hope you have a great new year buddy!!!!!!
 
One of my buddies and I grew up using traditional black powder rifles and pistols. And I'll tell you, there isn't too many guns that are funner than shooting them. However, my buddy went over to the inline black powder rifles. His roots are with traditional, but he also has a respect for the new technology. I don't really see anything wrong with either one, except they aint no AR15 :p:D. I hope you have a great new year buddy!!!!!!
Thank you for the New Year well wishes...And a great New Year to you as well...!

As for an Inline , a AR15 or a traditional muzzleloader....
Hey that's a great start for a joke :
A Inline , a AR15 and a traditional muzzleloader all walk into a gunshow.....:D

They all work well and have a place in someone's collection....for sure.
May all here have fun shooting this coming year...!
Andy
 

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