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What a crock - Fake gun shop video raises questions about truth, compliance with laws

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  1. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Fake gun shop video raises questions about truth, compliance with laws
    http://www.examiner.com/article/fak...pliance-with-laws?CID=examiner_alerts_article

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    Once we realize the major premise is a slick lie fabricated by professional propagandists, why should we believe anything about their anti-gun video?
    States United to Prevent Gun Violence


    A video produced by States United Against Gun Violence purports to show a fake gun shop in New York City appealing to first-time buyers, who are then recorded on a hidden camera as a man behind the counter turns them against making a purchase by telling them how the firearm he hands them was used to take human life. As per standard practice, a well-financed Astroturf operation relying on slick professional illusion-casters is counted on to make up for lack of grassroots support.

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    States United to Prevent Gun Violence-You Tube video screen shot
    States United/Ceasefire USA is one of the groups behind the recent #ImUnloadng campaign, in which prohibited person Snoop Dogg tells all his fans that have 401Ks to not invest in gun companies because of all his “friends, family members and associates” who evidently make a regular practice out of shooting each other to death.

    The first flag is raised when viewers are told the entire video setup is a lie. That won’t surprise anyone familiar with “progressive” anti-gunner practices, but the thing is, once someone admits they’re lying, how are we to trust anything they say?

    Is it reasonable to believe that not one person recorded challenged the fraud behind the counter, told him off and walked out? Why is it the “first time customers” were all so receptive to the technique of being lied to that they swore off something they represented themselves as wanting for reasons as valid as protection and belief in the Second Amendment? If the monopoly of violence proponents are that persuasive, if all they need do is tell someone the gun they’re buying was used in a murder, why is it they’re not the ones with a five-million member advocacy organization? And it’s hard enough to believe even one person would be dumb enough to swallow the claim that a gun store carries and sells real “crime guns,” let alone to accept that every single one of the marks fell for it.

    Since the premise of the video is built around a lie, why should we believe any of it? After seeing previous propaganda efforts built around Bloomberg’s “Average Joe gun owner” and MoveOn.org’s “proud defender of the Second Amendment,” and noting their identities and affiliations were (and continue to be) intentionally withheld, why should we not question just who the “convinced customers” really are, and if they weren't in on the scam from the start, and each acting a part?

    Seriously, why believe the known deceivers behind the video? And did it never strike them (with their unwarranted sense of superiority and sophistication, it probably didn't) that reactions from New York City residents might not exactly be representative of any place else?

    The biggest thing that stands out though, is how the advocacy group was able to get all of those guns legally into New York City, with its draconian registration requirements.

    “In order to possess a gun in New York City, you will need a valid New York City handgun license or rifle/shotgun permit,” the city’s official website warns. Have we just witnessed David Gregory out-violated by an order of magnitude? Did everyone who possessed a gun in the making of this video follow the law to the letter?

    It wouldn't be the first time we've seen an anti-gun filmmaker breaking laws they impose on the rest of us.

    What we’re probably seeing is yet another secret behind the fraudulent video, a hidden partner. That would be the City of New York (I wonder if a film permit was issued?) with ordered NYPD participation (a patrol car is seen driving past the “store” in the first seconds of action).

    Whether any of these questions will ever be answered remains to be seen, as that would require someone with enough clout to compel answers. For now, we must satisfy ourselves with the understanding that the video is centered around an admitted deception, and true to form for elitists who aren't interested in hearing anything but gushing agreement, Statists United did not allow comments over at You Tube.
     
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  2. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    asinine, but not surprising
     
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  3. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Those people have some serious mental disorders. I mean real serious cerebral short circuits.
     
  4. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Hell, I'd invest in ANYTHING that'd wipe "Snoop Dog's" contaminated gene pool off the map. Margaret Sanger must be spinning in her grave at the sight of all the unchecked foolishness. :rolleyes:
     
  5. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    Report these videos as misleading and fraudulent to You Tube. Maybe if enough people report this garbage, they could possibly remove them.
     
  6. Charles98683

    Charles98683 Vancouver, WA Member

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    I hope they at least gave a steep discount after that lousy sales pitch...
     
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  7. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    This is what happens when mental defectives have too much time and money on their hands.

    These people should be stripped of their riches and deported to a communist country of their choice
     
  8. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    And, always remember, "the end always justifies the means" to these people!

    Boy! It would make these idiots sick if they could see how many "killed people" guns I would buy at a nice discount!:)
     
  9. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Bloomberg bought and paid for this crap!!!! I hope one day he chokes on a wad of bills!!!!
     
  10. jim97701

    jim97701 Bend Well-Known Member

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    What a load of crap!.
     
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  11. blackadder

    blackadder Everett Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Only one bill I hope he chokes on.... the Bill of Rights (2a specifically of course)
     
  12. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It is a rehash of an old comedy skit

     
  13. countryboy865

    countryboy865 Hillsboro Member

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    All actors. Although if those where the actual guns used id ask where the new firearms are at.
     
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  14. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'll bet these same folks wouldn't bother to make a video of a used car dealership with the same premise - this car was used in a bank robbery, this car was used by a drunk driver to run down a couple of kids, etc. Pure BS, nothing more. They don't have reason or facts on their side, so they appeal to the most base instinct of people - emotion - a tactic that, while useful in the short term, always proves to be worthless in the long term, at least for those folks that are capable of actual rational thought.

    No, this crap appeals primarily to frightened people and young, impressionable new voters. The gun is a tool, nothing more. I guess the next time I go to a garage sale, I'll ask the folks selling used stuff if the hammer or baseball bat was used to murder anyone, at least before I buy.

    Anyone, and I mean anyone, that bases their decisions on crap like this, really shouldn't be allowed the privilege to vote, they're simply too incompetent.
     
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  15. 308

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    Deebow Portland Well-Known Member

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    Since cars kill more people than guns, this would be an apt comparison.

    And the voting one applies as well.
     
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    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  18. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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  19. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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    Wait, aren't most of those firearms illegal in New York City?
     
  20. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    "Wait, aren't most of those firearms illegal in New York City?"

    Follow the money...:mad::mad::mad::mad: