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If I have to get a license to carry concealed ... That might just be bordering on "Infringement" or even outright infringement.
After all the 2nd Amendment does read , in part : "The right to keep and bear arms...
Bear in this case being a verb which means:
To carry...
To be equipped with...
At least according to Mr. Webster.
Having to ask a government official permission to exercise my right also seems a bit on the infringement side...
Andy
That pretty much sums it up. There really is no other argument that can be made.Washinton is a Shall issue state, If you can own a firearm you shall be issued a card to carry a handgun concealed, as is your right as a lawful citizen of these United States.
Once, while serving in the Marines, I entered an adjacent room in the barracks and found myself staring right down the barrel of a .41 magnum. Even in the military, some of the most basic rules of firearms safety are ignored, from time to time. The recent shootout in Dallas was between the police and a former military member and Ft. Hood occurred with an active member. Your DD-214 only proves your expertise with firearms, not that you are stable enough to own a firearm. The same goes for any kind of training you might insist upon.There has been a lot of discussion on the subjects of Constitutional Carry and National Reciprocity in the last year. While I agree with it for the most part, there is still the question of Safety Training in my mind. I am not trying to be contrary for arguments sake. I have met people that are inherently unsafe around Even a BB Gun.
Just asking here...
Why is it okay for me to carry / bear my firearm openly with out needing a license?...
Yet if I throw a jacket or shirt over my firearm , I need a license / approval to do so.
Am I not still carrying / bearing arms?...Why should just how I carry my firearm make a difference?
To me , asking for approval or needing a license to exercise a right , is bordering on , if not outright , Infringement.
Andy
As much as I agree, that anyone buying a firearm should have had safety and responsibility education, and also know how to shoot and maintain the weapon properly; having a certificate saying you have, doesn't mean you necessarily retained any of that information. I think the negligence articles we read regarding law enforcement officers is a good example of my point. Personally, the education process should be part of the public school health education program. I went for training before buying my own, and I go to the range on a monthly basis; used to go two to three x's a month the first couple years I was shooting.
Now, another thought comes to mind. The Courts taking away peoples 2A rights (for Violent Felons and certain people convicted of Gross Misdemeanors) This harkens back to post #4. In January of this year while living in yelm (Thurston County) a woman who was friends with a woman who had a beef with my wife, came to our door, the one time and last time I did not have my EDC on my hip when I answered the door, asked to speak to my wife, she then threatened my wife at which time I sent my wife back into the house and ordered the woman off my property, she refused to leave, I then told her to leave or I would call the sheriff and have her arrested for criminal trespass. She proceeded to display that she had a pistol in her waiste band, then pulled the pistol and racked a round while facing me, a quick 911 call by my wife had half of Thurston County Sheriff Department at my house in 6 minutes. She was arrested on Felony Assault W/Deadly Weapon charges. Long story short, she copped a plea to Gross Misdemeanor weapons charges avoided any longer Jail time, but the Judge took way her 2A rights. Granted she can appeal the loss of her gun rights after 5 years with assurance of getting them back. In situations like this, is this punishment proper? Even though it has been confirmed proper by the Supreme Court, is this government intrusion right? Personally I say yes (But of course I do as the Victim of this crime). I will go as far as saying she is very lucky indeed I didn't have my EDC Pistol on my hip that night.
This is absolutely false information. We can and do carry openly in Seattle often; it is by no means illegal. Additionally, there are no cities in WA where open carry is illegal; the State has full preemption.You need to remember that open carry isn't allowed everywhere in WA. Seattle says you can't and so do other cities.
I'm not sure where you got that information, but it is 100% wrong.
No, not may be wrong; are wrong.I may be wrong but I know that was the case at one time. I never left anything in Seattle so I don't have any reason to go there. And, Carrying open in Seattle would be an open invitation for trouble.
But, wouldn't it be worth it to be able to "legally" carry in all 50 states? Besides...I thought the NRA was solidly in favor of this initiative.This is why I oppose a national reciprocity agreement ( forced by the feds ) . I feel it would cause Washington to include a training requirement in its CPL licensing process.
But, wouldn't it be worth it to be able to "legally" carry in all 50 states? Besides...I thought the NRA was solidly in favor of this initiative.