Unlimited PTO . What?

[Alexx1401]

Salaried and Im not replaceable unless they want to do another year of head hunting.

That is a GREAT position to be in.

 

[Will_White]

You get 7 weeks of paid vacation a year? When do you work?

Alot of European countries have a minimum of 8 weeks mandatory paid vacation (time you have to take off)

 

[nwslopoke]

Alot of European countries have a minimum of 8 weeks mandatory paid vacation (time you have to take off)

Which is wonderful unless you are waiting for some important paperwork to get back. I saw a video of a young German in Florida that married an American. He pointed out part of the difference is the American hustle culture and the drive to make money. More than he could under the same situation in Germany. He commented it was a choice in lifestyle, but he was willing to put in work to get ahead at this point. More opportunity here than at home.

I see the European model as safe and secure but limited with a lack of drive to get ahead if there is no benefit of doing extra. As stated, you have to take off work so there is an added benefit of close borders and inexpensive transportation. So, the quality of life is debatable. Whatever works for you is the best answer.

 

[wired]

Everyone except wired

I'm a magician

 

[wired]

Which is wonderful unless you are waiting for some important paperwork to get back. I saw a video of a young German in Florida that married an American. He pointed out part of the difference is the American hustle culture and the drive to make money. More than he could under the same situation in Germany. He commented it was a choice in lifestyle, but he was willing to put in work to get ahead at this point. More opportunity here than at home.

I see the European model as safe and secure but limited with a lack of drive to get ahead if there is no benefit of doing extra. As stated, you have to take off work so there is an added benefit of close borders and inexpensive transportation. So, the quality of life is debatable. Whatever works for you is the best answer.

I work for a German company. We are frequently advised not to talk about salaries with our German counterparts. It makes them unhappy

 

[nwslopoke]

I'm a magician

We did have a guy several years ago that thought outside of the box, but they gave him more leeway than others. He was hard to replace but they were too ridged on everyone else to get things done.

I guess you earn your spot.

 

[wired]

We did have a guy several years ago that thought outside of the box, but they gave him more leeway than others. He was hard to replace but they were too ridged on everyone else to get things done.

I guess you earn your spot.

Not a rigid company at all. I was one of two people in the company who could program Siemens PLC's. The other one just retired. Started here in February. Its an industry Ive never worked in before and on one line that was their money maker I increased their run time efficiency from 35% to 85% . It runs all day . Its never done that. While Im sure everyone is replaceable, yeah, Im not easily replaceable. I run maintenance and engineering and someone asked me last week how I do all this stuff and make it look easy. Because its easy , for me.

 

[Nosferatu]

We did have a guy several years ago that thought outside of the box

Everyone on my team is so bubbleguming busy trying to 'think outside the box', they completely lose sight of the problem and try to out-do each other with who can come up with the most wildly stupid creative 'solutions' that cause more problems than they solve.

In the meantime, I'm over here getting the problem fixed with the simple solution that's punching everyone in the face, from within the box.

 

[nwslopoke]

Everyone on my team is so bubbleguming busy trying to 'think outside the box', they completely lose sight of the problem and try to out-do each other with who can come up with the most wildly stupid creative 'solutions' that cause more problems than they solve.

In the meantime, I'm over here getting the problem fixed with the simple solution that's punching everyone in the face, from within the box.

I saw about 3 people in almost 30 years that were actual problem solvers beyond a certain level. This is from a pool of big brains with PhDs. The main one, Mike, was old school and believe started with a standard engineering degree 100 yrs ago.

 

[Alexx1401]

Alot of European countries have a minimum of 8 weeks mandatory paid vacation (time you have to take off)

I had no idea most of health care gives so much time off until I started working in it. Started with 5 weeks a year which even that shocked me at the time. Had never seen it. When I tell some of the younger people about how for me "normal" was a week off, that unless you worked at some place for 15 years 3 weeks was exceptional they look at me like its a snow gets deeper tale

 

[doobee8]

Find a new purpose and challenge. Get busy doing the things you love, now!

 

[nammac]

I'd rather keep my accrued 8 weeks a year…. I'm sure "unlimited" would raise eyebrows taking a couple or three months off a year. My company permits banking up to 12 weeks before the accrual tops out, at my tenure tier.

Typical holiday time off includes the week of Thanksgiving, the week of Christmas, the week of New Year's and a few days the first week of January.

I'll take the same days off my daughter has off from school, week for spring break and by Memorial Day, I need to take days off so I don't lose the accrual. Take a few weeks in August. Then behave until the holidays again.

This year, as of today, I'm at 6 weeks of taken time off, two weeks in December will bring me to 8 weeks for the year. Add to that 12 paid company holidays, it's a good package.

 

[Nosferatu]

My employer knows better than to offer me unlimited PTO, they know I'd take them up on it.

 

[TTSX]

Feck all you guys, I get 80 hours of PTO after 7 years and I don't even get to take it. Just gets paid out in a lump sum on my anniversary. All these part timers getting full time pay

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

What a bunch of looser! Having to ask somebody else if you want to take time off work!

If you were self employed like me you wouldn't have to ask anyone and could just take time off whenever you don't feel like making any money

 

[Ducati_Meister]

Precisely. It's also been proven that people on an unlimited system tend to take less PTO overall so your company is going to save oodles of money by shafting the employees. It's not a favorable system for workers.

I wonder if there's a psychological reason behind this "unlimited" PTO scheme. Sounds more like a corporate con job if anything.

 

[Tlock]

What a bunch of looser! Having to ask somebody else if you want to take time off work!

If you were self employed like me you wouldn't have to ask anyone and could just take time off whenever you don't feel like making any money

Ya but in your line a work its best to take time off for your knees and jaw health.....jk jk jk

 

[nammac]

What a bunch of looser! Having to ask somebody else if you want to take time off work!

If you were self employed like me you wouldn't have to ask anyone and could just take time off whenever you don't feel like making any money

So in other words, no time off….

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

So in other words, no time off….

 

[wired]

I wonder if there's a psychological reason behind this "unlimited" PTO scheme. Sounds more like a corporate con job if anything.

The way HR explained it was when your on vacation and you have to sit in on a meeting or answer questions on the phone you are working so it opens them up to potential liability.

I didnt buy it either..