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UN Arm treaty push on again- NRA says No Way to Blue Helmet Boys Arms Treaty

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by novamind, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. novamind

    novamind Hillsboro Active Member

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  2. longcolt

    longcolt Zephyrhills, FL Active Member

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    I just hope that enough gun owners turn off their TV's and video games to wake up and defend their gun rights.

    If the flotsum and jetsom of society calling themselves The Occupy movement can get as much attention as they got, don't you think 80 million gun owners could get the attention of Congress???? I wonder what it would take to put them in the streets to protest?
     
  3. revmedia

    revmedia Dallas Member

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    The occupy people got tons of attention, but nothing accomplished. Pretty much every one I know (liberal and conservative alike) thinks they're just a bunch of unemployed losers. We need to win the hearts and minds of those other 220 million non gun owners. I'm not sure how that's accomplished.
     
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  4. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Well that's because MOST of us have full time jobs/careers, and don't have time to cop a squat in the parks outside city hall, et all. I wonder how many of the occupy jerk-wads had Obama-phones?
     
  5. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    No UN treaty can over rule the US constitution. This has been ruled on a number of times by the US Supreme Court.
     
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  6. DireWolf

    DireWolf Oregon Active Member

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    Please don't inject facts into a good hysteria thread before it gets going.
     
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  7. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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  8. PMKN_PI

    PMKN_PI Milwaukie, Oregon, United States Active Member

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    I have heard just the opposite. Multiple times. That IF the treated is ratified by congress and signed by the president, that all treaties with other nations DO supersede any conflicting law with the Constitution.
    Sign The Petition To Stop The US From Signing The Arms Trade Treaty! | Dickmorris.com

    Now, after searches, seems most people say it isnt a worry, that the Bill of Rights CANNOT be negated by a treaty. Even if it cant, whats to stop government vermin from enforcing a treaty over the 2nd amendment? And even if it doenst effect gun laws here, it could at least destroy the last of any weapons/weapons parts and ammunition importation that exists today.
     
  9. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    Heard ? :)

    Reid v. Covert - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    And what does prevent government from enforcing arbitrary crap ?
     
  10. Just1MoreBlackRifle

    Just1MoreBlackRifle Battle Ground, WA 98604 Member

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    Arms in the hands of private citizens. :buttrock:
     
  11. coyote223

    coyote223 NW Oregon Stamp Collector,,,

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    Wouldn't that be why there is an all out assault at both the state and federal level, to destroy the 2nd and the constitution? One more turn-coat justice is all that is needed in the SC,,,:paranoid:
     
  12. PMKN_PI

    PMKN_PI Milwaukie, Oregon, United States Active Member

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    I realize that. But the goal in the meantime is so it doesnt get that far. amirite?
     
  13. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    I think we just need to wait until there is a finalized version of the treaty, then study it, and decide whether it would be in our interest to have it ratified or not. Unlike other people, I think the purpose behind the treaty is legit, and only certain implementation details might have some concerns.
     
  14. PMKN_PI

    PMKN_PI Milwaukie, Oregon, United States Active Member

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    You sound like the kind of naive guy that would just use the little chain on the door instead of the deadbolt.
     
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  15. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    I can articulate my naive position fairly well. People who on the other hand start these threads around here keep on repeating the same mantras. I'm sure we've cited the SCOTUS decisions, text of the Constitution, press releases and other credible info at least half a dozen times. And still somebody is preparing to shoot "blue helmets". Don't you find it silly ?
     
  16. PMKN_PI

    PMKN_PI Milwaukie, Oregon, United States Active Member

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    Ill give you that.
     
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  17. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    I am not preparing, and don't belive "blue helmets"will ever show up on these shores, but if they do, I will react to them in a very hostile way.
     
  18. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'm sorry I know I should be grounded for a month and no dried vegitables for me for a week. What on earth was I thinking.
     
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  19. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Blue helmets are easy to see...
     
  20. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, we should make a new law requiring stupid people to wear them at all times.