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UBCs stop crime....oh, wait!

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dave Workman, Apr 6, 2015.

  1. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Almost simultaneous to me filing this story, an e-mail from "Everytown" popped into my INBOX, with a money beg to push the background check bill in Oregon.

    It was signed by the widower of a woman killed at the Clackamas town center in December 2012. What it didn't mention was that the killer in that shooting stole his rifle. No background check.

    Why do anti-gunners constantly refer to crimes that did not involve a background check in order to push background checks? Huh? What was that? I didn't quite hear that..... :rolleyes:

    Recent headlines underscore myth of UBC as crime-fighting tool

    Yesterday’s Seattle Police Blotter reported the early Sunday arrest of four guys with three handguns in the Belltown area, and one of them was stolen while another was tucked in the waistband of a guy who did not have a concealed pistol license.


    http://www.examiner.com/article/recent-headlines-underscore-myth-of-ubc-as-crime-fighting-tool
     
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  2. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    they should use the Clackamas incident to illustrate the importance/effectiveness of armed citizens instead
     
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  3. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Don't hold your breath.;)
     
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  4. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    To the widow of the person killed at Clackamas Town Center: Your loved one chose to be a sheep rather than a sheepdog. Don't try to force his poor life choice on others.
     
  5. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    "Widower." The man lost his wife.
     
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  6. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    IMHO, victims and their families are off limits
     
  7. hollowbase

    hollowbase Oregon Member

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    So this guy from Monroe that stole and sold the guns is he punishable under I 594?
     
  8. Uberdillo

    Uberdillo Oregon Active Member

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    That would be virtuous.

    I wish they were not so easily used and manipulated by the firearms prohibitionists. I think if they're going to be toyed with like that, they deserve to be offered a chance to see how they're being misguided and abused. It is a disgusting shame that they and the death of their loved ones are being exploited as a means to an end.

    They should be invited to talk freely about what they truly want in the aftermath of their loss, without goading from one side or the other.

    If they do not or can not show any sign of reason and continue to promote their suffering alone as a reason to infringe upon the rights and oppress lives of others "if it would save one life", no matter how contradictory it is to support laws that would have had zero effect in preventing the loss of their loved one, then they deserve no better than the two-faced organizations that would lie to them to further their own goals.

    Same for all the representatives of non-profits and organizations that would label gun owners as promoting domestic violence, abuse, gang violence, homophobia, suicide and all the other infuriating absurdities.
     
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  9. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Only if they stay out of the fight. If they choose to enter the political arena, they do not get a free pass against criticism. We had this same issue with family members of 911 victims. Yes, there is certainly compassion and they are allowed some leeway when they emotionally express the grief associated with their loss. When they go beyond expression and join a political venue, then they are the same as everyone else.
     
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  10. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    of course many of them get hijacked by the control movement, brainwashed, and then unleashed
     
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  11. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, that is very true. The real scum are the ones that use them for their own political gain.
     
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