Truck gun storage

[etrain16]

I know that I am not the only one with this problem. I would love to find a lock box for under the back seat of my truck that could fit multiple pistols or a AR truck gun and a hand gun. After searching high and low I have found out that no one makes one for my style and year of truck. I am great with constructing stuff out of wood but never have done any welding or anything.

How hard would it to be to custom make one out of a light gage steel? @IronMonster do you have any thoughts on this? @etrain16 has mentioned he is having the same problem and cant find one for the front of his truck.

I would think there would have to be an economical way of creating something that could be built in. Any idea's would be appreciated.

My other problem is that I have a child safety seat still installed in the rear seat my truck that will likely be there a bit longer - that means I can't move the seat back forward on the rear seat without removing the safety seat - and that's a pain. So, until that changes, I'll have to stick with pistols or very compact/foldable rifles/carbines. Some day it would be nice to have a rifle-length vault behind the rear seat.

 

[etrain16]

I really wish they made a console vault for my truck, but they don't. So, for now, I keep a cabled lock box for those times that I have to disarm, say at a courthouse. It's for temporarily securing the gun when I absolutely can't have it on me, which is fairly rare. These are certainly not heavy-duty safes, but for what I use it for, I'm fairly comfortable with it.

The main reason for my lack of concern is that most car break-ins are crimes of opportunity and they are in and out in seconds. While these boxes won't stand up to a dedicated, tool-wielding thief, they won't walk away quickly, nor will they be opened without at least a screwdriver or something to that effect. And even if they have a tool, they'll likely need a moment or even a few to get in. Problem is, once they break the window to get in, they've drawn attention to themselves and likely won't hang around.

I would never use these in a remote location or overnight where a baddie might have time to really work at it. But parked in a busy area, with no other choice, it works.

 

[clearconscience]

Just use a small gun safe under the sest with a cable lock.
Most BGs want a quick entry and get away.
Anything they have to work at isn't worth it.
I have one in my car and throw my kids stuff over it.
All about the decoy.

 

[11Charlie]

I really wish they made a console vault for my truck, but they don't. So, for now, I keep a cabled lock box for those times that I have to disarm, say at a courthouse. It's for temporarily securing the gun when I absolutely can't have it on me, which is fairly rare. These are certainly not heavy-duty safes, but for what I use it for, I'm fairly comfortable with it.

The main reason for my lack of concern is that most car break-ins are crimes of opportunity and they are in and out in seconds. While these boxes won't stand up to a dedicated, tool-wielding thief, they won't walk away quickly, nor will they be opened without at least a screwdriver or something to that effect. And even if they have a tool, they'll likely need a moment or even a few to get in. Problem is, once they break the window to get in, they've drawn attention to themselves and likely won't hang around.

I would never use these in a remote location or overnight where a baddie might have time to really work at it. But parked in a busy area, with no other choice, it works.

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I have the same cable box I would just really like to have a vault that fits under the back seat. Something I don't have to think about and is out of site. You know something that if a BG breaks in actually looks under the seat says holly bubblegum this guy takes his sh!t seriously I'm not messing with him he might hunt me down.

Its more of a want than a necessity but a really strong want.

 

[11Charlie]

Just use a small gun safe under the sest with a cable lock.
Most BGs want a quick entry and get away.
Anything they have to work at isn't worth it.
I have one in my car and throw my kids stuff over it.
All about the decoy.

Thought about a small gun safe but the way my seat is designed it wouldn't work. I would have to put it in the bed of my truck and I'm just not leaning in that direction right now.

 

[Jamie6.5]

This can be done, and for less money than most might believe.
But you also have to be realistic about defeating the bad guy that wants to steal your stuff.

The determined thief with time, tools and nobody noticing the noise he makes, will still get them. Once he knows they're there. So if there's a long, flat, locked box mounted in plain sight in a redneck looking pickup, he knows what's in there. So the trick is at least some degree of concealment or disguise.

If anyone is really serious about this, I have the connections to get the box made out of 16-18ga steel, with welded corners, hinges etc. But until we try it a time or two, sources will need to be found for the (foam?) liner, and discussions will need to be had about lock mechanisms.
I would suggest a full length piano hinge on back side, that once the box is mounted is nigh on impossible to defeat. Hinges tend to be the weakest part of a lock box, requiring far less effort than a good lock to break.

 

[etrain16]

I have the same cable box I would just really like to have a vault that fits under the back seat. Something I don't have to think about and is out of site. You know something that if a BG breaks in actually looks under the seat says holly bubblegum this guy takes his sh!t seriously I'm not messing with him he might hunt me down.

Its more of a want than a necessity but a really strong want.

You could always keep a body under the seat....that would send a strong message too

 

[11Charlie]

This can be done, and for less money than most might believe.
But you also have to be realistic about defeating the bad guy that wants to steal your stuff.

The determined thief with time, tools and nobody noticing the noise he makes, will still get them. Once he knows they're there. So if there's a long, flat, locked box mounted in plain sight in a redneck looking pickup, he knows what's in there. So the trick is at least some degree of concealment or disguise.

If anyone is really serious about this, I have the connections to get the box made out of 16-18ga steel, with welded corners, hinges etc. But until we try it a time or two, sources will need to be found for the (foam?) liner, and discussions will need to be had about lock mechanisms.
I would suggest a full length piano hinge on back side, that once the box is mounted is nigh on impossible to defeat. Hinges tend to be the weakest part of a lock box, requiring far less effort than a good lock to break.

I could probably come up with the foam liner and put that in myself. As for the build I agree with you about the hinge and having to the back of the box for security. I'm sure that who ever builds it would have a great idea about the best lock for the job.

This would be a great project and would love to get one but part of it would be cost and time to meet the manufacturer to take dimensions depending on location and how far apart we are. If cost is to high I would have to budget that so I don't hurt my gun funds to bad.

 

[Caveman Jim]

You could always keep a body under the seat....that would send a strong message too

Or if not room for a whole body them just an arm or a leg....

 

[etrain16]

Or if not room for a whole body them just an arm or a leg....

Gives a whole new meaning to "cost me an arm and a leg"....

As in, "what did that new security system cost you??"

 

[Caveman Jim]

You got that right!!!

 

[11Charlie]

I'm not giving up either!!

Any volunteer's?

 

[Jamie6.5]

I could probably come up with the foam liner and put that in myself. As for the build I agree with you about the hinge and having to the back of the box for security. I'm sure that who ever builds it would have a great idea about the best lock for the job.

This would be a great project and would love to get one but part of it would be cost and time to meet the manufacturer to take dimensions depending on location and how far apart we are. If cost is to high I would have to budget that so I don't hurt my gun funds to bad.

That's just it. I'm not talking about going to a vault builder. But I have plenty of connections in the welding and fabrication world, and more than a couple in the sheet metal world.
So once dimensions are established, the rest is easy.

But none of these people are lock specialists either, and the strength/type/number and location(s) need to be considered.
I'm sure some would be happy with a hasp and a padlock, while others would want something a little less obvious and/or obtrusive.

 

[11Charlie]

That's just it. I'm not talking about going to a vault builder. But I have plenty of connections in the welding and fabrication world, and more than a couple in the sheet metal world.
So once dimensions are established, the rest is easy.

But none of these people are lock specialists either, and the strength/type/number and location(s) need to be considered.
I'm sure some would be happy with a hasp and a padlock, while others would want something a little less obvious and/or obtrusive.

Tell you what let me do some research on locks and such and I will keep you all posted. I will also shoot you a PM Jamie.

 

[clearconscience]

I would look at the dash itself.
I did car stereo installation years ago and in most dashes you have a ton of room.

Take it apart an maybe build a compartment in there. Get drug trafficker creative

 

[dustinm]

I have an under seat box from Tuffy in my Tundra for longuns. I love it. Super easy install, with the door open you can't even tell the safe is there.

www.tuffyproducts.com

 

[h2oguy]

try a product by DU-HA under the back seat storage. I have seen them on the Cabela's website.

DU-HA™ Under/Behind-Seat Storage : Cabela's

 

[11Charlie]

try a product by DU-HA under the back seat storage. I have seen them on the Cabela's website.

DU-HA™ Under/Behind-Seat Storage : Cabela's

Thanks but I was leaning more towards steel and lockable. Plus they still don't make one for my truck

 

[h2oguy]

they didn't have one for my truck either,
I ended buying a lockable steel truck tool box

 

[ikemay]

Just for a visual this is what I am thinking.

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Would it be easier to modify something like this Truck Bunker to fit your truck, or try to make one from scratch? What dimensions are you talking about, and is there a "hump" in the floor of the rear seat? Just thinking Caveman Jim has the right idea, nuts, bolts, drill bits, angle grinder/cutter/sawzall and I bet you could make yourself a pretty nice custom one without welding.