Time to divorce the other side or 1/2 as the case may be..

Dan Adams · Mar 18, 2020

The Heretic said:
Oh, well, if you want to fight it out with the US Army, be my guest.

There was also the Civil War, which didn't turn out too well for the secessionists.

Not looking for a fight. And don't want the Feds to get the wrong idea! I just don't think voting alone is going to get us anywhere.

edzz · Mar 18, 2020

If North Idaho became self governing why would we welcome joining with other regions that would likely wish to establish dominance?
Trade one master for another? Or enjoy a newfound freedom. :s0139:

Why would we want to be ruled by the likes of spokanastan. :s0125:

The Heretic · Mar 18, 2020

Dan Adams said:
Not looking for a fight. And don't want the Feds to get the wrong idea! I just don't think voting alone is going to get us anywhere.

IMO, voting or any other action will not result in any new state or county where the process involves secession. There might be counties in some states where there is an exception, but I don't think that is the issue here.

bentoncity · Mar 18, 2020

ma96782 said:
Well, Clark county voted for I-1639 so it should be with "the left coast side."
Aloha, Mark

Got it...

I have no idea on Cowlitz or Skamania. :s0092:

Dan

titsonritz · Mar 18, 2020

Fix bayonets and push to the ocean.

Ruger Rich · Mar 18, 2020

The Heretic said:
The reason it won't happen today is because it requires, at least, the majority vote of the people in the state. Having some number of people less than half of the residents of a state, try to secede from the state won't work. The fact that there are strong reasons for the majority to hold the state together means the majority will never vote for secession. Don't like what the majority votes for on a regular basis - too bad, so sad - you are stuck with it - anything else is just fantasy.

I lived in NorCal along time ago, when SoCal wanted the water and NorCal tried to split. A comic effort as all of Cal had to vote on it, and where are most of the people in that place?

sobo · Mar 18, 2020

The Heretic said:
IMO, voting or any other action will not result in any new state or county where the process involves secession. There might be counties in some states where there is an exception, but I don't think that is the issue here.

As I said before, it's not a secession. It's a partition. There's a difference...

Nick Burkhardt · Mar 18, 2020

The Heretic · Mar 19, 2020

sobo said:
As I said before, it's not a secession. It's a partition. There's a difference...

Call it whatever you like. For it to be effective you would need for the majority of the state to vote in favor of it, and that isn't going to happen any more than you will get them to repeal gun control laws. I wish you luck though.

I594 Sucks · Mar 19, 2020

deckert said:
Is this the barrier we need to keep our sanity and constitutional rights? Feel free to chime in and make corrections since I don't live/work/play/visit those strange lands..

Dan

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I prefer the East side retain "Washington" as a state name and let the Wet side use "Martin Luther King, Stillaguamish, or Sasquatch" for theirs.

JCKelly · Mar 19, 2020

Last state to be successful was West Virginia. They may have had support from D.C. at that time.

Some years back - when the Dems were still Americans - the Delmarva peninsula came close to making one state, comprised of Delaware and those pieces of MD & VA. Might have been during the '50's. Made sense & think they almost made it, I hadn't been aware of the constitutional problem.

rfmjchp · Mar 19, 2020

State of Jefferson actually came up as early as 1852. In 1941, prior to the start of the Second World War for the USA, articles were printed in Time and Life magazines. Even elected a "Governor", but December 7, 1941 interfered with any further movement. At that time the following counties of California & Oregon comprised the State of Jefferson: California - Del Norte, Siskiyou and Trinity; Oregon - Curry. Since then some additional counties have expressed from time to time: Calif - Modoc, Humboldt, Lassen; Oregon - Josephine, Jackson, Klamath, Douglas and Coos. From time to time some California counties have gotten fed up
with Sacramento and have passed non-binding resolutions supporting or expressing an interest in joining the State of Jefferson. Shasta and Butte are two that I know of.