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Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Teamowner, Mar 20, 2009.

  1. Teamowner

    Teamowner Vancouver, Wa. Member

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    Anyone go to the gun show today?? I was wondering how the ammo was holding up?? Any .223 and or 9mm available and did anyone notice aprice on the .223? Thanks
     
  2. Keane

    Keane Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    I went.

    BuyAmmo.com was really low on ammo, but there were a few 50 cal cans of .223, but I didn't notice 9mm.

    Sorry, I have no idea on the prices.
     
  3. finch6013

    finch6013 Oregon City Active Member

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    I got some silver bear .223 at 215 for a 700 rnd tin. The brass stuff was all around 450 and up per 1000. And I noticed brass was allmost gone about half way through the day. Didn't notice 9mm though.
     
  4. Teamowner

    Teamowner Vancouver, Wa. Member

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    Thanks for the replies!!!!!!!!!:thumbup:
     
  5. USMC1911

    USMC1911 Salem Active Member

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    Wolf 9mm was $239 1000 ouch
     
  6. elsullo

    elsullo Portland Oregon New Member

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    9mm ammo was nearly cleared-out by afternoon Friday, except Wolf. The big ammo sellers had mostly empty pallets by Three PM. A couple of smaller sellers had small stacks of various premium 9mm for way more than two dollars per round! The only "reasonable" price I saw was a gun table selling off four boxes of non +P 9mm Magtech hardball for $23.00 each for fifty rounds. In the ENTIRE show there were only ten or so boxes of .380 ammo left---at FORTY DOLLARS per twenty-round box!

    I spoke to one reputable dealer who told me of spending TWENTY HOURS of internet searching of wholesale dealers for .380 ammo to buy. There is NONE. He had to jack up his prices on what little he has left to a ridiculous level.

    For those who cry foul over "price-gouging" please remember that vendors have to survive somehow. If they cannot get product to sell today, they have to price what they have much higher just to keep going, not to mention needing to buy more at an even higher price tomorrow. Today's retail profits have to cover tomorrow's wholesale price increases.

    The economy's Bad folks, it's Bad I tell you!...............elsullo :(
     
  7. Teamowner

    Teamowner Vancouver, Wa. Member

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    Went to the gunshow myself today around 2:30. The big ammo sellers were out of .223 and I also didn't see any 9mm. I was bummed. :( Hope to find another 1000 rounds of decent quality soon before prices get to outrageous.
     
  8. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    There was also a show in eugene this weekend, I showed up there at 3:00 and was back out the door at 3:30, not much there, and nothing that wanted to follow me home.
     
  9. Frog

    Frog Vancouver, Washington Member

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    Not quite sure I understand the logic that a bad (no money) economy =
    'sold out' amunition. Isn't the reason they are 'sold out', because people bought the ammo and they haven't replaced it?

    So, why haven't they replaced it?

    Is it because people are buying it faster than it can be made? Certainly not what you'd expect in a 'Bad' Economy.

    OR

    Are the Ammo manufacture's cutting back on their production? Certainly not what one would expect in a 'Bad' Economy. And one would increase production, in time of high demand.

    It's very strange. Wish I had an answer for what's going on.

    Frog.
     
  10. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    The main reasons that ammo has been scarce is because civilians are buying it up, and the bigger reason is that the Department of Defense double their ammunition order for the next quarter, so priority goes to military contracts for production.
     
  11. 9mmD

    9mmD sw wa Member

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    There's another show(better one imo) up in chehalis next weekend. might give that one a try. I hope to get up there sometime saturday.
     
  12. Frog

    Frog Vancouver, Washington Member

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    The military orders may be part of the problem, PhysicsGuy, but they are still part of the 'Consumer Chain'.

    Correct me if I'm wrong. I always thought that each ammo manufacture had basicly two manufacturing plants. One plant makes military ammo to government spec., and the other that makes 'citizen ammo' to the company's default formula.

    I'll tell you one thing. If they moved the one set of employees over to the military side, to fill those spec. orders, it time we get the woman back out there working in the ammo plants again!! This is war!! :D :D

    Frog.
     
  13. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Well the problem is that they can only produce so much due to the limitations of their machinery. Also there was the recent scare with the ordered destruction of brass. I don't know about the companies having a civilian plant and a military plant. I just know that the majority of the consumer ammunition comes from ATK, and they also hold most of the military contracts.

    (for reference ATK owns federal, speer, CCI, and other offshoots)
     
  14. uscsoldier

    uscsoldier Salem, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I know some homo who got a M-14 for $450
     
  15. NWMoss

    NWMoss Lost, permanently... Member

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    Soooo depressing, I was there 1st thing in the morning and there was nothing worth buying!! (ammo wise)

    I DID notice that there were a LOT of M4's and AR15s, even if they were still overpriced.

    I also found Magpuls! Nice! But, too expensive at $30/ea. The idea behind the pmags is that they were to be relatively inexpensive, and easy to produce massive quantities of... So much for that!
     
  16. Krinkov

    Krinkov NW OREGON Member

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    whart!! Thats like a garand right?
     
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  17. finch6013

    finch6013 Oregon City Active Member

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    I actually seen a few AR's at a decent price. I seen some DPMS for 950-1100 and Some DelTon's for the 800 range. I did notice that the complete uppers were quite expensive but I did find some lowers and parts kits at fair at best prices. I didn't notice them flying off the tables as fast as possible like previous shows
     
  18. Krinkov

    Krinkov NW OREGON Member

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    I got an Lower Parts Kit for my first AR-15 Im building, it cost me like 100 I thought that was good because I needed it. even got it with one of those nice hoge wraparound grip covers,

    GOt 3 AR mags for 57 so I think im doing good, I talkd the guy down from 60 so that was cool.

    this was my 4th or 5th guns show, it was awesome. cant wait for the next on., ing going to get one of those green lazers that supposedly go the moon and a bad *** flying helicopter for my Gf who wants one
     
  19. finch6013

    finch6013 Oregon City Active Member

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    the moon? come on. I did have one of those lazers and it was easily seen at a few hundred yards at night
     
  20. CaseyPod

    CaseyPod North Vancouver Member

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    They are cutting ammo supplies because they don't want us to have it. I think companies are waiting to hear about microstamping regulations and whether the reloaders will still be able to buy spent military brass to reload and sell to civies...

    Buy whatever you can where ever you can... I think ammo is going to become a rare commodity soon.