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No, actually it's not. It has no power to corrupt the Justice Department, Trump does and has. It has no ability to undermine our national security apparatus, Trump does and has. It has no ability to undermine good order and discipline in the military, Trump does and has. It has no power to subvert the constitution, Trump does and has. You worry about street protesters, while Trump is undermining our democracy.

And Obama didn't abuse his power and lead efforts of a corrupt Justice Department against his political enemy? :s0140:
 
Your view of current events is quite different than mine. I saw looting, I also gross abuses of police power on peaceful demonstrators and a President threatening to deploy active duty troops on the streets of American cities, which - if you haven't noticed - has been condemned by a broad range of former senior military leaders. The greatest threat to our democracy today is the man in the White House who fancies himself a tinpot dictator.

Walla Walla isn't a place affected by these riots. Most senior military leaders are probably live in upper class suburbs and are not affected by these riots either. Imagine living in an urban city with all these riots and looting. Your job have been suspended, unemployment checks are late or non-existent. You're worried about food, rent, etc.

You can't move to a more rural area because there's no affordable housing and qualify for no jobs.

Then the looting and burning starts. Now, after not working for two months you have to worry about if your workplace is going to get torched and out of a job another month or more. And now you''re wondering when/if the Governor is going to call up the National Guard. Of course not. They're talking about reducing police presence, permanently.


Trump is threatening the Governors; if they don't call up the National Guard to stop the rioting, looting and KILLING, he'll call up the military to do the job. So, now these unemployed people are going to be forced into areas like Walla Walla.
 
The events in our society are hard to understand, and many do not want to believe that there is a movement, albeit not completely organized to create a socialistic government and society, at all costs. Lies, manipulation, deceit, violence are the new normal way to try and change this country. While I agree that our government needs to be vastly overhauled reformed and changed, there still is a lot of mileage to go before we should advocate and participate in violence. The recent displays of American patriots turning out to protect property, business and lives is the first step in repelling those who choose violence as a major agent of change. This will continue. I myself have participated in an unorganized activity when I heard there was the possibility of Antifa goons showing up in Redmond yesterday. There was a protest, no Antifa, and peaceful and short lived due to a heavy rain squall. Despite all that, there was a presence of armed patriots in the downtown area, many of them store owners. I sat on the porch of a commercial building a block off the main downtown area. My arms concealed behind a table. I engaged in conversations with other patriots, and waved at passers by. As the demonstration broke up, I went to one of the shops who's owner I met to have a sandwich and coffee to support them in their recovery from this scamdemic and the resulting anarchy.

As my own emotions and thoughts have come full circle from when all this started, and despite my reservations from having the expectation that the government might be doing the right thing and doing what it should for the people, to realizing that the government and the ruling class is the primary disinformation source and the basic root of all our trouble, complicated by the anarchists and treasonous azzholes who take advantage of this to manipulate the situation to their end. I have had a big writers block the last 2 months trying to process and understand all this. But it has become crystal clear to me in the last 2 weeks that our country is truly in trouble, our elected leaders of all levels and parties have horribly failed us and each are engaged in their own struggle for dominance and positioning. It will be up to those of us who have realized what we are up against to preserve our freedoms, and the millions who have sworn that oath that contains the phrase " all enemies, foreign and domestic" , we are truly seeing the obtuse and hidden domestic enemies at work right now.

76 years ago yesterday, brave men and women went ashore at various beach head locations in France to run out an evil movement that was taking over Europe and would have surely been on the shores of the US in due time. My father followed that initial wave on D Day + 1 as a munitions support solider. My father in law commanded an LST landing on the beach at Normandy over 6 times that day. These great men are no longer with us, and if they can see what is happening in our country today I am sure they would shed a tear, and then quickly wipe it away and go kick the bubblegum out of the people who need it.

As our country continues its daily descent into anarchy and chaos from the domestic enemies that are attempting to destroy everything The Greatest Generation and those generations who followed them fought for, right down to the service of my children in the military, my word to those who seek to subvert the right and proper way to go about change is to watch your azz very carefully.Every memorial, monument to our military, police and country that the domestic enemies have chosen to deface, damage and destroy, to the police officers who have been killed during these protests is just one more poke with a stick to the no longer hibernating bear that you have awoken, and if you continue to poke that bear you will soon feel its unleashed wrath in a way you never wished you had.

When politicians start calling this a revolution, be careful what you wish for. The good people and patriots of this country will only take so much, and that time is getting close. Peaceful protest of wrongs is the American way, indictments of entire classes of people for the wrongs of a few on both sides is wrong, and hoping for the candy coated utopia that will never happen only deflects from the dangers to domestic freedom that is present every day in our country. This is not only various classes of citizens, but also the ruling class who seeks to impose it's will on it's citizens in the name of some unknown need, orchestrating and manipulating people, laws and the complicity of the media, all the while continuing to restricting the freedoms and movements of the citizens.

Thank you to the Greatest Generation, to those many generations who have followed in the defense of the nation from foreign enemies and now this cloudy view of the internal domestic enemies who pose the current threats. Vigilance now more than ever. Watch your own six too people, things have a way of sneaking up on you.
If you don't like this message, scroll on past, and save your comments, you will not change my view on this at all. My hope is that this country resolves its differences soon, as it will likely take a generation to make a difference, but if the descent to anarchy and violence continues, it will be hard to imagine this county in 40 years.

May God bless and watch over the American patriots of all forms, sexes, colors and creeds. The treasonous bastards who seek to destroy our country have a day of atonement and judgement coming real soon.

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Black Lives Matter! Peaceful protest is happening all over. You don't seem to understand the reality of the situation. Antifa is a small number of agitators. Most of the people protesting around the world are doing so peacefully. If you take up arms in the name of patriotism against unarmed protestors then you know nothing about patriotism, despite your verbose post re: the greatest generation. Both my grandfathers were sailors in the Pacific during WW2. My father left Vietnam as a corporal after two tours. The legacy they've passed on to me is peace. Why do you have to ignore the real movement and make stuff up about socialism? That's not the point! Black Lives Matter is the point.
 
Black Lives Matter! Peaceful protest is happening all over. You don't seem to understand the reality of the situation. Antifa is a small number of agitators. Most of the people protesting around the world are doing so peacefully. If you take up arms in the name of patriotism against unarmed protestors then you know nothing about patriotism, despite your verbose post re: the greatest generation. Both my grandfathers were sailors in the Pacific during WW2. My father left Vietnam as a corporal after two tours. The legacy they've passed on to me is peace. Why do you have to ignore the real movement and make stuff up about socialism? That's not the point! Black Lives Matter is the point.

So, is that "BLM" as in there is never ever a reason a black person should ever be killed by a non-black? Or "BLM" as in a black person should never be killed by any cop for any reason? Or is that "BLM" that could possibly direct it's message to the number one killer of blacks, other blacks? You know, the way that 90% of blacks die in this country? Does that "BLM" care about that?

Does the "BLM" movement even have a point at which it might accept cases where black people are justifiably killed? Or is "BLM" just committed to making a big deal every time a black person is killed by a non-black?

Because I have news for you, blacks are always going to be killed by others. I haven't seen BLM define a metric they use to determine if they should protest or not protest. Seems the current metric is pandemic+election year=opportunity, and the usual metric is to ignore black-on-black violence which is in the several thousands/year, and only focus on the cop-on-black which is less than a dozen a year, many of which are legally justified.
 
So, is that "BLM" as in there is never ever a reason a black person should ever be killed by a non-black? Or "BLM" as in a black person should never be killed by any cop for any reason? Or is that "BLM" that could possibly direct it's message to the number one killer of blacks, other blacks? You know, the way that 90% of blacks die in this country? Does that "BLM" care about that?

Does the "BLM" movement even have a point at which it might accept cases where black people are justifiably killed? Or is "BLM" just committed to making a big deal every time a black person is killed by a non-black?

Because I have news for you, blacks are always going to be killed by others. I haven't seen BLM define a metric they use to determine if they should protest or not protest. Seems the current metric is pandemic+election year=opportunity, and the usual metric is to ignore black-on-black violence which is in the several thousands/year, and only focus on the cop-on-black which is less than a dozen a year, many of which are legally justified.
It's Black Lives Matter as in a statement of fact. That's what I'm referring to, since you asked.
 
It's Black Lives Matter as in a statement of fact. That's what I'm referring to, since you asked.

My "ask" was way more specific than your non-answer.

I'd like to see all of the protestors who have no reservations about "protesting" in relatively safe (such as their own) neighborhoods get on a bus and head into the inner cities of America, where the gang-bangers and drug dealers live and get in their face and protest them for killing the vast majority of black people. Go to the killing grounds of the people you are advocating for and stare down their real killers. Ya'll won't do it because ya'll are scared. You'll get beat up or killed for going into gang-run neighborhoods. But, you'd have my respect.
 
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