Taliban used drone to film VBIED attack

[etrain16]

You cannot defeat an ideology with violence. You cannot defeat them by "exterminating them" all. It doesn't work. It never has and it never will.

Lets take a look at a different time period in the world when there was a man named Paul who used to be called Saul. He was responsible for spreading Christianity throughout the Roman empire. Paul wrote that "we are to" obey rulers and institutions put in place by God, this wasn't a time of peace. This was during a time when the Roman Emperor named Nero was doing everything he could to wipe Christians from the face of the earth. Nero was using them as torches to light the paths, courtyards and other places under his control.

If there ever was a time when a religious group was going to be wiped from the face of the earth it would have been that time right there. Low numbers, an all powerful and oppressive government that ruled with a force so violent there has never been anything like it since.

So no, bombing them to the stone age, killing them all etc will NOT rid the world of these murderers. The solution is not at the end of a gun or bomb. The problem is in the heart, fix the heart and you fix the problem.

Eloquently stated

 

[Jamie6.5]

They don't have to "win" they just have to keep us from winning. Much like they did the Soviets in the '80s.

Ho Chi Minh and his military (with the help of the Chinese) taught the world that.
And we let them.

We don't have the stomach to fight the next Crusades. What kept the Muslim world in check for a century or more was believing they would be put to the sword if they threatened to do the same to others.

And on the topic of winning their hearts, I don't believe that's possible either. As we as a society/culture move away from religion, and teach evolution and atheism in our schools and colleges, we reinforce their belief that we are indeed "infidels." Our government and our courts have supported that, and will continue to do so.
The very definition of Infidel is "unfaithful."
Within the tenets/guidelines of their faith, we provide prima facie evidence everyday that we are what their radical leaders say we are.

 

[CoastRange57]

And on the topic of winning their hearts, I don't believe that's possible either. As we as a society/culture move away from religion, and teach evolution and atheism in our schools and colleges, we reinforce their belief that we are indeed "infidels." Our government and our courts have supported that, and will continue to do so.

Exactly. These are multi generations of illiterate simpletons who know nothing else except Islam and the sword. They are raised by being beaten as children and the women are beaten as well. Some of those goat bangers learned you should not beat or hit your woman when US Marines are around, they will take "corrective action".

Most Americans think in a context that somehow these savages have the same thought process's and moral compass as Western civilization, and that some how we can make them see the error of their ways. It is only a error in Western thinking that is unacceptable, since their thinking that is just normal. This will continue for the next 1,400 years as it has already. Keeping them contained is the key, less they get nukes (sup Iran). Europe has not done that and that will be your next global conflag. When they have to break out the military to put them down on the European continent, you know that is their SHTF.

Hell, there is probably enough sleepers in the US arming up now to create havoc. Seen how many of those rags you see at gun shows??