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These "new gun owners", "CHL permit" owners have every bit a right to protect themselves as someone who knows it all like yourself.
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I have mixed feelings on this. I will say no to more regulation to our 2nd Amendment rights. However, I am concerned with the huge number of first time gun buyers and first time concealed handgun permits issued. Not out of fear for the general public, but for the new players. I have some neighbors and coworkers who bought their first gun or got their first concealed carry permit after the election. That 3 hour class did not teach them all they need to know to be able to hit what they shoot at or more importantly, when they can use deadly force. I have preached the importance of getting additional training. Not all listen. They just wanted to have a gun and a permit to carry it legally. This scares me. We have a million new gun owners that did not do their homework. If they screw up, the anti's will use it against us all.
So, there is something to be said about required training. Think in the terms of self preservation of rights on this one. Most of us here on this forum, have trained to shoot straight and know the laws that pertain to the use of deadly force. Most of the new players have not a clue to what they are doing. And when they screw up, we will all be painted with the same brush by the anti's.
I am not "Trained" in being a father of four. I am a father of four. I have a right to be a father. I know there can be problems if I do not do it right. But I get my chance. I do not need to go to school first to see how someone else wants me to raise my children.
I have a right to defend myself. I have a right to own and carry a firearm. I am not required to be trained in firearm ethics first to be able to protect myself.
I hope you meant to say country. Your profile says you live in Portland. No one loves Multnomah county. It's a train wreck. And, yes, I live in Multnomah county.I am just a man, who loves his wife, kids and county and believe I have a right to defend them with my own firearm if needed.
They need to plan to respond in certain ways to avoid being shot by responding officers who have no idea who the good guy is and, quite frankly at that moment in time, don't care.
What are your thoughts?
I think they should. Too many gun totting idiots ruin this priviledge for us. They think they are hard core just because the gov't gave them permission to carry a gun legally
IMHO:
How many ccw holder's really think they're "Hard Core"?
I'll refer you to the other part of my postThen they should find employment that doesn't require the carrying of a weapon. Common sense tells me to identify my target, I didn't need to take some course to know that. To just shoot everyone left standing hints of panic, and people who panic shouldn't have guns.
...who do not understand how the police will respond when responding to a scene where deadly force has been used (not how you think they should respond but how they will respond)...