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Shocking News from ABCs Diane Sawyer

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by fredball, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    OUR PRESIDENT, What the heck is he thinking?
    I-635 in Texas is being rebuilt with underground tolls from I-35 to I-45
    and is contracted to a CHINESE firm for over $5 billion.
    Diane Sawyer reporting on U.S. bridge projects going to the Chinese.... NOT Americans.
    The bridges are right here in the U.S. and yet Obama has approved for Chinese contractors to come
    in and do the work. What about jobs for Americans???
    Watch this video. It doesn't take long to view.
    This one should be tough for the supporters of the current regime to swallow....AND it comes from ABC NEWS
    U.S.A.Bridges and Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms
    Shocking to say the least! This video is a jaw-dropper that will make you sick.
    (It was also shocking that ABC was actually reporting this story.)
    The lead-in with Obama promising jobs in the U.S. by improving our infrastructure is so typical of all his promises!
    Our tax dollars are at work - for CHINA !!!
    I pray all the unemployed see this and cast their votes accordingly in 2012!
    CLICK here: U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video - ABC News

    http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/us-...513?tab=9482930?ion=1206853&playlist=14594944

    I for one am mad as HE double lolipops
     
  2. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    Though I am still uncertain as to who i will vote for in November - this is a state issue not a federal issue. The states turned down federal money so that they could chose who they wanted as contractors. This is not an Obama or federal issue.

    Respectfully

    James Ruby
     
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  3. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    This happened under Bush as well.
     
  4. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    This is looking like the new trend. Don't forget about the bay bridge. I believe reading NYC had contracted with Chinese firms for a bridge and infrastructure for the subway system.

    I know the bay bridge project also avoided using federal funds so they could outsource it. I believe they saved $400 million on a $7 billion project. Doesn't seem like a large enough savings to me especially with the unemployment rate they had.
     
  5. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    Questions to ask for each situation:
    - was the winner the lowest bid, the most capable, or both?
    - is there something else (legally or illegally) influencing the decision?
    - e.g. will the Chinese buy/support their bonds later if they win the deal?

    Peter
     
  6. PX4WA

    PX4WA Tacoma, WA Active Member

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    although I don't support the idea... this does not mean chinese labor are coming here to do the job...

    it just means a chinese company is the contractor and any profits made goes to that company.

    it still creates jobs, and jobs are still paid at prevailing wages...

    no different than toyota building a plant in america... it's a japanese company and profits go to japan, but guess what, it's made in the USA...do you know that more than 70% of your ford was made overseas? only final assembly was done stateside...

    next time you buy a new car, there is a sheet that states parts content country of origin, you will be amazed...
     
  7. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I think i will avoid driving over any bridge built by China in USA, based on products I have purchased here made in China. Likely poorly made junk

    PS why is it when something like this is posted the last presidents name is always bought up and blamed for it.
    it's as tho this president is not responsible for anything, just saying
     
  8. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    It does not mean that Obama is not responsible for anything, it just makes it a little less "shocking".
     
  9. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    It IS a good thing for putting Americans back to work, even IF it is Chinese workers building the bridges, tunnels, and sky scrapers.... SOMEBODY has to make the sandwiches. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. marty8587

    marty8587 NE Portland Active Member

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    It's really sad! I was at the coast a while back and stoppd at Cape Fowlweather. In the gift shop were some walking sticks. I looked at one and was disgusted to find it was made in China! Seems they want it all. big and small.
     
  11. CharonPDX

    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

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    Exactly. While I am a fan of giving a 'bid credit' to local companies (count their bid as 10% lower or some such,) would you complain that Obama was wasting our money if the government had gone with a US-based company that charged 50% more?

    Also, "Obama" didn't sign off on this. I really doubt an individual road construction project ever sees his desk. Heck, it probably wasn't even a partisan official that had final say, probably a career bureaucrat in some windowless office somewhere...

    And as others have said, it will still be US workers that do the work. Yeah, I'd prefer that the profits go to a US company, but it's still creating US jobs.
     
  12. lamrith

    lamrith tacoma Active Member

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    Does anyone really believe that the POTUS, be it this one, the last one or any of them in the last few decades is directly responsible or has knowldege of the details of every highway project going on?

    I also highly doubt that they are going to bring in all chinese labor to do it either, US Workers will be on the job, you can bet our Unions were all over that and had it written into the bid before it went public.
     
  13. davemata

    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

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    It all comes down to bids. There are a lot of US based firms that need legit competition. Look at the special flowers working on the bay bridge.

    It's all capitalism, the Chinese just happen to be better at it than us. Can't be a capitalist and a protectionist, and good omelets require broken eggs. I want an omelet now.
     
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    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Always someone to blame Bush! I suppose you think Fast & Furious was his too?
     
  15. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    I wouldn't say they are "better" at it than us. More so their government is cheating the system because what would be illegal in America is not in China.
     
  16. davemata

    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

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    Is it cheating then? Or just different rules?

    I doubt research would show them cheating at a higher rate than US cos., its just in the news more when they're caught because they're our current "Red Menace"
     
  17. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    No, Bush only made us much more indebted to the Chineese than any other president to date. I am sure that has nothing to do with how we cow tow to them, right?

    James Ruby
     
  18. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Yeah, and I'm sure the campaign contributions Clinton/Gore received from the Chinese back in the day had ABSOLUTELY no influence either... Like allowing our D5 nuclear warhead technology to be stolen in plain view.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  19. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    Its one thing to be given money and another to owe some one money. Bush made us subservient to China by backing the war on terror. The only thing nice out of all this is that China really doesnt want us to default on our loans not necessarily because they like us.

    What concrete evidence is there of this statement "Like allowing our D5 nuclear warhead technology to be stolen in plain view." or is this simply a "I think this might have happened so it did."

    So you think the president intentionally gave them that information, I woudl guess they got it through clandestine methods wihtout anyones approvals.


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    James Ruby
     
  20. Sincere

    Sincere Between Cascadia and Jefferson Active Member

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    Free market capitalism sucks when it works against your interest huh?

    Or was it only supposed to be free market for people who look like you? Never hear anyone pitching and moaning about labor that goes to or goods made in Europe.
     
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