Remington Feeling the Pressure.

[timac]

As long as Remington remains in New York, I'll never buy any Remington products.




In first comments, Remington Arms fires back at NY gun law

08 May 2013 by Joseph Spector

Remington Arms, which has a major gun-manufacturing facility in Illion, Herkimer County, made its first comments yesterday about New York’s controversial gun-control law, knocking the law and saying it wouldn’t leave the state “without considerable thought and deliberation.”
In a posting on its Facebook page, the Madison, N.C.,-based company said, “We believe the NY SAFE Act is unconstitutional and was passed in a questionable fashion.”
The company, which said it employs 1,300 people, said it worked to block the Jan. 15 law, but was unsuccessful in stopping “this anti-gun legislation.”
It said that a recent defense contract had nothing to do with a “pay off” and had been in development for years.
The company didn’t rule out leaving the state, either, as it has been heavily courted by other states after the gun law passed.
“While we are unhappy with the misguided acts of our elected politicians, Remington will not run or abandon its loyal and hard working 1,300 employees without considerable thought and deliberation,” the statement read. “Laws can be overturned and politicians voted out of office, but the decisions we make today will affect our people, their families and entire communities for generations.
“Please bear with us as we determine the most appropriate way to satisfy our customers and protect our employees.”
Here’s the full statement: (h/t to the Albany Business Review)
To our Remington fans,
We believe the NY SAFE Act is unconstitutional and was passed in a questionable fashion.
Remington and its employees worked diligently with pro-gun legislators to prevent the Act’s passage. We actively participated in the Albany rallies and drove the letter-writing campaign to stop this anti-gun legislation.
The recently awarded Department of Defense (Special Operations Command) contract, questioned by some as a “pay-off,” has been in development for years—it has nothing to do with NY State.
While we are unhappy with the misguided acts of our elected politicians, Remington will not run or abandon its loyal and hard working 1,300 employees without considerable thought and deliberation. Laws can be overturned and politicians voted out of office, but the decisions we make today will affect our people, their families and entire communities for generations.
Please bear with us as we determine the most appropriate way to satisfy our customers and protect our employees.

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[308]

I do respect their comment about loyalty to their employees and their community.

 

[coyoteman5]

It still boils down to the almighty buck, if it comes down to the buck versus employee I think the buck will win.

 

[Stomper]

And just how many of those 1300 employees voted for the schmucks that are in office? I'd wager a fair percentage did... Let them eat cake, or move to a different state.

 

[NWGlockgal]

I do respect their comment about loyalty to their employees and their community.

Call me cynical, but I think their statements about loyalty to their employees is el toro pooh-pooh.
They are looking out for themselves and doing what is best for the company. I'm not faulting them for that, it's a company
and their interest is to make money for themselves and any investors. The bit about employees and community is only to
make themselves look good.

 

[Mark W.]

I think boycotting Remington is a stupid waste of time and effort. They aren't moving TO NY they been there for decades and don't want to screw up their business by moving.

 

[NWGlockgal]

I think boycotting Remington is a stupid waste of time and effort. They aren't moving TO NY they been there for decades and don't want to screw up their business by moving.

I'd agree.
Has Magpul made any move to leave Colorado since they said they would if the restrictions were passed? It's a big problem if companies say they are going to do something and then don't follow through. It only emboldens the liberals.

 

[Hrethgir]

Remington never said they were going to leave if those laws passed, so I'm not going to hold it against them if they decide to stay because it's best for their business. This is very different from magpul, who crowed that they would leave if the CO laws passed, but since then, I haven't heard a peep from them about moving. If I was going to boycot anyone, it would definitely be Magpul over Remington, and that's an easy choice to make. In fact, I'm not going to buy anything new from Magpul until is comes stamped that is was made somewhere besides CO.

 

[Swedish K]

I'd agree.
Has Magpul made any move to leave Colorado since they said they would if the restrictions were passed? It's a big problem if companies say they are going to do something and then don't follow through. It only emboldens the liberals.

I believe Magpul has moved some production out of state and just did a press release stating that they can't openly discuss where they are moving as they are still in negotiations with a few locations and declaring the move location prior to finalizing the deal would cost them in potential tax breaks, etc.

 

[timac]

And just how many of those 1300 employees voted for the schmucks that are in office? I'd wager a fair percentage did... Let them eat cake, or move to a different state.

1300 Union workers can only vote for a Socialist ideology.

I'd agree.
Has Magpul made any move to leave Colorado since they said they would if the restrictions were passed? It's a big problem if companies say they are going to do something and then don't follow through. It only emboldens the liberals.

Magpul has started production out of state, I believe in Wyoming. Many of their Colorado suppliers are moving also or considering . Ruger is looking to expand, NH or Ariz. Conn was considered till their idiotic laws were passed.

I think boycotting Remington is a stupid waste of time and effort. They aren't moving TO NY they been there for decades and don't want to screw up their business by moving.

S&W & Ruger both learned from the last bans. The American gun owner can affect your pocket book.

 

[jrprich]

While I would like to see firearms companies strike back at these stupid laws I am not naive enough to believe that they could move their long established infrastructure and highly skilled workforce in a short time frame. To do so would cost them millions that would take a long time to recover, if ever.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Really.... how many of you people boycotting Remington are consistent?
kimber is made in Yonkers, and no one has made a peep about them, Ruger is in Connecticutt, Beretta in Maryland, Savage makes a large number of their guns in CANADA and exports them here...

so therefore, everyone should ban Ruger, Savage, Kimber etc...

 

[dmancornell]

Really.... how many of you people boycotting Remington are consistent?
kimber is made in Yonkers, and no one has made a peep about them, Ruger is in Connecticutt, Beretta in Maryland, Savage makes a large number of their guns in CANADA and exports them here...

so therefore, everyone should ban Ruger, Savage, Kimber etc...

Implying I don't already boycott Ruger (for 10 round mags) and Kimber (for making crap).

I'd rather buy a Canadian Savage than a Cerberus-Remington any day.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

so what do you buy? FN USA is the only company I know of that produces most of their guns in "free states", well a large number of AR makers are located all over the place, like Bushmaster in Maine, and Olympic here in Olympia, and DPMS in Minneapolis. but a full service firearm company with a broad line.... FN is about the only I can think of

 

[dmancornell]

so what do you buy? FN USA is the only company I know of that produces most of their guns in "free states", well a large number of AR makers are located all over the place, like Bushmaster in Maine, and Olympic here in Olympia, and DPMS in Minneapolis. but a full service firearm company with a broad line.... FN is about the only I can think of

AR's: Noveske, BCM, DD, Larue, take your pick. I'd rather burn my money than give it to Colt.

Bolt guns: last one I bought was a Tikka. Savage has a good line-up.

Shotguns: FN, Benelli. Don't forget to boycott Mossberg (for not leaving CT and for being DEA sycophants).

Plenty of choices for the morally aware consumer.

 

[DieselScout]

If your not buying Remington, don't forget other NY gun co' like. H&R, Henry (New Jersey), Kahr, Ithaca, Lewis Machine Tool (Illinois has a long history of being very anti gun), Rock River Arms (IL again), Seecamp (CT), Springfield (IL), Stag (CT), Whetherby (CA), Winchester (CT), Aramlite (IL), Colt (CT) and all the other mentioned in this thread. Many companies have been based in "enemy territory" for decades or centuries, bit no ones cared until now.

 

[Netspirit]

I would actually like those companies to stay on the "enemy territory". They have employees and their families, who know and respect firearms, and can spread that knowledge in their hipster surroundings.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

If your not buying Remington, don't forget other NY gun co' like. H&R, Henry (New Jersey), Kahr, Ithaca, Lewis Machine Tool (Illinois has a long history of being very anti gun), Rock River Arms (IL again), Seecamp (CT), Springfield (IL), Stag (CT), Whetherby (CA), Winchester (CT), Aramlite (IL), Colt (CT) and all the other mentioned in this thread. Many companies have been based in "enemy territory" for decades or centuries, bit no ones cared until now.

Isn't Ithaca in Upper Sandusky, Ohio?

 

[DieselScout]

Isn't Ithaca in Upper Sandusky, Ohio?

My mistake I was looking at historical info. Regardless my point remains the same, plenty of companies have been and still are in anti-gun states. So if your going to boycott one, boycott them all.

 

[Key-Hay]

My company wants me to move to Upstate NY. I was actually considering it until Jan 15th. Told them that after what their legislature did I would not be a NY resident.