Prototype AR upper WTF is this?

[FireArm]

Olympic was like the KelTec of the 80s and 90s

Keltec didnt start making guns until 1995... and still suck at it today. but i think i understand what your saying.
Olympic sucked and so does Kel-Tec.

 

[Boboclown]

I don't know if Nodak would bother, probably not enough of a market for it. Unlike the garage folks, Colt machined the rail to the upper so it never had a carry handle. The rear sight was a folding one, similar concept to the BUIS we have now.


Here's one in color:

 

[Mygrainman]

Keltec didnt start making guns until 1995... and still suck at it today. but i think i understand what your saying.
Olympic sucked and so does Kel-Tec.

Basically yes... but their innovation has pushed the industry.

 

[bbbass]

Didn't read the whole thread, but it sure looks like a homemade integral can to me.

 

[Boboclown]

Basically yes... but their innovation has pushed the industry.

To give Kel-Tec some credit, when you don't get a lemon its something that's worth it. Though, um, I'm not getting their .308 bullpup... Not sure I'd like the idea of a .308 round being fired right next to my face in a Kel-Tec.

 

[Mygrainman]

I don't know if Nodak would bother, probably not enough of a market for it. Unlike the garage folks, Colt machined the rail to the upper so it never had a carry handle. The rear sight was a folding one, similar concept to the BUIS we have now.


Here's one in color:
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DPMS made this monstrosity, albeit long after the M4... don't know why it didn't catch on

 

[Boboclown]

DPMS made this monstrosity, albeit long after the M4... don't know why it didn't catch onView attachment 475708

Obviously cause it wasn't marked Colt. If it was Colt they'd sell.

Honestly, its surprising the stuff you see when you look up what Colt experimented on. Such as the piston operated AR (Colt 703), that didn't catch on because Colt didn't think the benefits of a piston was worth the cost and complexity (in machining mind you) of the system. When you think about it, piston ARs are not new at all.

 

[Mygrainman]

Colt lost the SCAR bid to FN(obviously) and for good reason..
Their entree was this..
I built my own version same ARMS #58 rail, but with a Superlitive Arms Piston system... Ida won for sure!

 

[Boboclown]

You should see Colt's ACR entry.

Yeah... I'm not sure Colt was in the right state of mind when they experimented on stuff like that.

 

[CamoDeafie]

You should see Colt's ACR entry.
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Yeah... I'm not sure Colt was in the right state of mind when they experimented on stuff like that.

Mother of....... crap like that makes the Hi Point carbines LOOK good

 

[Mygrainman]

I'll come up with something interesting to do with this stuff...
Doesn't take much imagination when you mock it up like this...

Problem is a lot of my retro stash is new old stock parts...
NOS 12/89 flat slip ring

NOS in package Colt M16 Grip 01/85

New Old Stock Colt .625 FSB, and Duck Bill flash hider,
Colt front TD screw Pin

NOS Colt SP1 Semi auto BCG


I could do this... I
. I have the wacky retro scope mount

Also have some CAR15 fiberlight stocks
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[CamoDeafie]

dang man. ALL THESE parts would be just about perfect for a XM177E1 style SBR build with a 300 BLK barrel

 

[Mygrainman]

I have a hard time using NOS parts... somebody kept them in their packages for the last 35+ years.. I don't want to be the one to "deflower" them

 

[CamoDeafie]

keep the retro parts, get the surplus parts/commercial parts from PSA sales or other sales? Do they even sell carbine gassed 10.5" .300blk barrels with the triangle FSB attached???

the main issue with doing a XM177e1 clone would be one of the 3 things; a slickside lower with 3rd burst or full auto (M16 or M4 lower), a 4.2" moderator that is regulated by ATF as a suppressor.... and the fact it would be a Form 1 build no matter what parts you use; if the barrel is under 16".

a CAR15 Sporter clone with standard HB 16" carbine barrel probably would be easier to do...and with either of the scope or the funky scope mount, you could do a LAPD look...maybe even a Lebanon War era IDF look with the sling wrapped on the FSB itself

 

[Boboclown]

I'll come up with something interesting to do with this stuff...
Doesn't take much imagination when you mock it up like this...
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Problem is a lot of my retro stash is new old stock parts...
NOS 12/89 flat slip ring
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NOS in package Colt M16 Grip 01/85
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New Old Stock Colt .625 FSB, and Duck Bill flash hider,View attachment 475732
Colt front TD screw Pin
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NOS Colt SP1 Semi auto BCG
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I could do this... I
.View attachment 475733 I have the wacky retro scope mount
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Also have some CAR15 fiberlight stocks
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Keep in mind the scope's BDC is set for 55 gr out of a 20" barrel. Might as well go retro A1 sniper.

Better than the wacky scope mount, which won't be fun if it doesn't sit flush with the handguard.