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Much of it is the old maxim of govt. "Nationalize the profit, socialize the debt".
(IIRC,) ~20% of the cost of building housing is directly related to regulatory costs that are all passed on to the buyer.
THAT is almost always the real problem. Yet again few want to see or hear it. While back in SanFran they looked into building public toilets for the "homeless". After spending enough money to buy a lot of homes they came to the conclusion it would be about a million bucks each to build them so said no. So an NGO offered to make them for free. Then they found out the permitting process would end up costing 1 million each for the free toilets to be put in. Yet the people who live there hear this, then vote for more of it and wonder why it gets worse.
 
40 hours used to be enough, but then corporate greed took over about 50 years ago. There's been a steady assault on people's paychecks ever since. We have record corporate profits but not record setting wages. Ask why. When we all figure out both parties are in cahoots with the mega-corporations and the super-rich...then real change will happen. Until then, we'll just fight over red vs. blue while they take more and more of our green! Good times.
So government had nothing to do with this? Its corporate greed? So why is it the gov is not stepping on those corporations?
 
So government had nothing to do with this? Its corporate greed? So why is it the gov is not stepping on those corporations?
Look up campaign contributions. It's the biggest fail of modern times--we all focus on government when corporations and the super rich more or less control our government in the first place. Bailouts for the big dogs are always "bipartisan". Helping regular people NEVER is.
 
So government had nothing to do with this? Its corporate greed? So why is it the gov is not stepping on those corporations?
You mean like when we used to call Bell telephone company...oh yeh, I forgot the government broke that up. Something about a monopoly. But then there's the new Jaguar car company commercial. So much for private companies making better decisions.
 
You mean like when we used to call Bell telephone company...oh yeh, I forgot the government broke that up. Something about a monopoly. But then there's the new Jaguar car company commercial. So much for private companies making better decisions.
Few remember good old Ma Bell. :s0140:
As for corporations you have to remember they are run by humans. Ma Bell was a PRIME example of this. When they split them up AT&T branched out into other thing. It seemed everything they touched turned to 💩
They got into the cable TV thing up this way for a long time. They made such a mess they had to sell it. Then they got into the Broadband market. They made such a mess of that they had to change the name of it a few times trying to hook new customers who would not bother to find out the new name was the same morons. The big difference is normally when a Corporation really screws up they have stock holders they have to answer too. Gov screws up? People elect the same people back to fix the mess they made :confused:
 
Look up campaign contributions. It's the biggest fail of modern times--we all focus on government when corporations and the super rich more or less control our government in the first place. Bailouts for the big dogs are always "bipartisan". Helping regular people NEVER is.
So we should just vote to have Gov run everything. Sounds like a plan to me. I sure love going to places like the DMV, the place I go to get building permits, Post Office, Social Security Office if you need something. All these places show me we really need the gov to just take over everything and we will be in phat city. :s0140:
 
The only prices I see coming down in the US, specifically in the PNW, is fuel prices, I don't see anything else lowering in price. What gives?
Consider the source. If they told me it was going to be dark tonight I would want a second source. I know I sure as hell have not seen anything going down in price. Kind of shocked they were not running a story like this before the election. By early next year they will be saying everything has gone downhill.
 
Consider the source. If they told me it was going to be dark tonight I would want a second source. I know I sure as hell have not seen anything going down in price. Kind of shocked they were not running a story like this before the election. By early next year they will be saying everything has gone downhill.
Exactly, I hate that people keep using those liberal rags as facts.
 
Then exactly how do you "want" this fixed for you?
I'm not asking for anything to be fixed for me. I have stated "there's got to be a way to fix" it. And as spoken before, as long as people are "willing" to pay, prices aren't going down. Maybe that $600k house down the road sells for $550k and the market declines, but for now, someone's gonna move in from out of town that's willing to pay $620k. That person probably makes $250k/yr marketing for some subsidiary of the 6 corporations that own the food supply. I don't know what solutions we have to "fix" the housing market. I'm all ears if anyone else has ideas.
 
So we should just vote to have Gov run everything. Sounds like a plan to me. I sure love going to places like the DMV, the place I go to get building permits, Post Office, Social Security Office if you need something. All these places show me we really need the gov to just take over everything and we will be in phat city. :s0140:
Where did you get that I said the Gov should run everything?Do I think like 3 companies should dominate almost very major industry AND have enormous control over our government...no I don't. Let's talk about service from the mega-corporations: cell service, internet service, cable TV, airlines, food, media, healthcare, and on and on and on. That's all stellar quality, right? We have hardly any competition in most major industries and that isn't good for anyone, except the big dogs.
 
Exactly, I hate that people keep using those liberal rags as facts.
I regularly read the large "news sources" just to stay up on what's going on. The ones like MSNBC are seldom telling anything close to the way it really is but, still like to read their take and then see what others are saying. The net has helped to really take the wind out of places that used to just be taken as facts. Its why there is such a push to stop free speech. They have a market of people who will read and watch them and nothing else. They want to hear and see what places like that tell them so they love it as long as they don't dare search out others. Hey why not. Like the people who watch large portions of the city they live in on fire and then tune in to be told its mostly peaceful protests and believe it. As long as their car or house is not of fire I guess it works :s0092:
 
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Where did you get that I said the Gov should run everything?Do I think like 3 companies should dominate almost very major industry AND have enormous control over our government...no I don't. Let's talk about service from the mega-corporations: cell service, internet service, cable TV, airlines, food, media, healthcare, and on and on and on. That's all stellar quality, right? We have hardly any competition in most major industries and that isn't good for anyone, except the big dogs.
The only time I see a problem is when there is only one, like concast. Right now its still it for us to get net from and sucks. Cell service? For me is great and cheap because there is competition. By all means keep saying you want the Gov to take over and give you cell service, take over media, sell food, and all will be grand. Healthcare is the best line yet. Talk to those who live where the system is all gov and ask them how great it is. So great the ones with money come here to use our system that is so bad. Let that gov control roll in and we will be in utopia :s0140:
 
The only time I see a problem is when there is only one, like concast. Right now its still it for us to get net from and sucks. Cell service? For me is great and cheap because there is competition. By all means keep saying you want the Gov to take over and give you cell service, take over media, sell food, and all will be grand. Healthcare is the best line yet. Talk to those who live where the system is all gov and ask them how great it is. So great the ones with money come here to use our system that is so bad. Let that gov control roll in and we will be in utopia :s0140:
Last round with you. I've never said government should run everything, only that 2-3 mega-corporations shouldn't dominate every industry. Since you just keep saying things I never said, I'm moving on with my evening. Have a good one.
 
I regularly read the large "news sources" just to stay up on what's going on. The ones like MSNBC are seldom telling anything close to the way it really is but, still like to read their take and then see what others are saying. The net has helped to really take the wind out of places that used to just be taken as facts. Its why there is such a push to stop free speech. They have a market of people who will read and watch them and nothing else. They want to hear and see what places like that tell them so they love it as long as they don't dare search out others. Hey why not. Like the people who watch large portions of the city they live in on fire and then tune in to be told its mostly peaceful protests and believe it. As long as their car or house is not of fire I guess it works :s0092:
There's some serious intellectual dishonesty with liberals these days and their blind trust in their media sources, its so bad they even fall for their own media lies and it cost them an election. Even the DNC fell for Biden's age being healthy enough to run the country until it blew up in their face, no surprise as their own Whitehouse administration Jean-Pierre flat out lied and gaslit Americans about "deep fake" videos of Bidens age concerns, her own party fell for it. And based on a few post election articles Ive read on the subject it appears liberals are still blind to why they lost the election. When their own polling data shows their opponent one point ahead but like the "mostly peaceful protests" all the headlines claimed it would be close but favors Kamala.
 
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