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The constitution means NOTHING without pushback Does anyone see any pushback?? Well do ya? Look at the changes in the obammycare he makes without congress just by saying so as it fits his agenda yet its the law of the land put in place by congress signed by him. Delaying parts of the bill that is law without congress. IF nobodys pushs back this is no different than our saying on this forum use your rights or loose them. Where is the executive outrage on the over reach by the king. If he gets away with this how hard will it be to do the same with all of our other laws and bill of rights. Is your back against the way yet. Tyrants know no limits or end to there control.
 
Obama can sign a National declaration of Loyalty to Satan. -Doesn't mean a damn thing until it's ratified by the Senate.

I realize you "Obama is the Devil" guys have a hard-on for the hapless jack in the WH, but there are limits, quite a few, to what he can do. The fact that there haven't been cops and swat teams at all our houses to confiscate our guns is an example of the LIMITS of the executive.

Meaningless signatures on treaties that don't have a chance in HELL of passing the senate are another.

I'd bet the OP is a strict constitutionalist. Too bad he's apparently never read the document, which pretty clearly outlines treaties.

I just want to know when the "Obama is the Savior" guys are gonna hold him accountable for his repeated attempts to disarm us and sto pretending like a guy that gets his crap shot down attempting every backdoor tactic he can come up with isn't committing crime after crime by simply MAKING THE ATTEMPT.

Whether the Senate passes this or not has nothing to do with the traitorous action that is signing it in the first place. That a US President would do everything in his power(and apparently the UN's power) to prevent us from being armed is one thing. That his followers would defend him because the Senate will protect us is completely and totally absurd.

If someone repeatedly tries to rape my wife, it is my duty to stop it, not make excuses for the rapist until he is successful. The Constitution in this situation is my wife.
 
It's amazing how many people think that this guy is anything but a "community organizer". It's hard for all the white guilt that allowed this abomination to get elected to admit that A: he is not a "Constitutional Law Professor", never was, never will be. B: He has anything but contempt for the Constitution. C: That he views himself as anything short of king.

They won't allow the truth to get in the way of their ego's. They need to know that somehow, some way, they didn't completely screw over their children's grandchildren with this horror. But they did. They tied down their great-grandchildren to be born into famine. All they have to hold onto is the ability of The US Senate to stop his insanity. So now we are seeing that as Obama's new excuse. It's OK to vote for the Anti-Christ, the Senate will stop him.

My God, if they could only remember the way they badmouthed Bush. It didn't take long for all of them to long for the good old days of Bush/Cheney. Whether their combined Socialist pride allows them to admit it or not.
 
You may want to check this out: Traitors (46 of them) Over the weekend, we came four votes away from the United States Senate giving our Constitutional rights over to the United Nations. In a 53-46 vote, the senate narrowly passed a measure that will stop the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. The Statement of Purpose from the bill
read: To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration, would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms.
The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S., and had language that would have implemented an international gun registry on all private guns and ammo.
Astonishingly, 46 of our United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power. Here are the 46 senators that voted to give your rights to the U.N. Baldwin (D-WI) Baucus (D-MT) Bennet
(D-CO) Blumenthal (D-CT) Boxer (D-CA) Brown (D-OH) Cantwell (D-WA) Cardin
(D-MD) Carper (D-DE) Casey (D-PA) Coons (D-DE) Cowan (D-MA) Durbin (D-IL) Feinstein (D-CA) Franken (D-MN) Gillibrand
(D-NY) Harkin (D-IA) Hirono (D-HI) Johnson (D-SD) Kaine (D-VA) King
(I-ME) Klobuchar (D-MN) Landrieu (D-LA) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) McCaskill
(D-MO) Menendez (D-NJ) Merkley (D-OR) Mikulski (D-MD) Murphy
(D-CT) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Rockefeller
(D-WV) Sanders (I-VT) Schatz (D-HI) Schumer (D-NY) Shaheen (D-NH) Stabenow
(D-MI) Udall (D-CO) Udall (D-NM) Warner (D-VA) Warren (D-MA) Whitehouse
(D-RI) Wyden (D-OR People this needs to go viral. These Senators voted to let the UN take our guns. They need to lose the election. We have been betrayed. 46 Senators Voted to Give your 2nd Amendment Constitutional Rights to the U.N.

Note: both of our Oregon Senators voted to give away our 2nd Amendment Rights. We have to make them pay for that at the next election.
 
It's amazing how many people think that this guy is anything but a "community organizer". It's hard for all the white guilt that allowed this abomination to get elected to admit that A: he is not a "Constitutional Law Professor", never was, never will be. B: He has anything but contempt for the Constitution. C: That he views himself as anything short of king.

They won't allow the truth to get in the way of their ego's. They need to know that somehow, some way, they didn't completely screw over their children's grandchildren with this horror. But they did. They tied down their great-grandchildren to be born into famine. All they have to hold onto is the ability of The US Senate to stop his insanity. So now we are seeing that as Obama's new excuse. It's OK to vote for the Anti-Christ, the Senate will stop him.

My God, if they could only remember the way they badmouthed Bush. It didn't take long for all of them to long for the good old days of Bush/Cheney. Whether their combined Socialist pride allows them to admit it or not.

There are several here.
Notably one that is pushing complacency and apathy by saying he "can't", when he constantly "does" and their language goes south when they dont win their point.

Unklekippy you nailed it.
Nothing can be taken for granted with where this administration will go to undermine this country. Obum cannot be given an inch, or the only weapon anyone will be allowed to own will be a water pistol. There are trolls on this forum that are great pretenders that do all they can to keep you seated and ridicule any real activism. They are easily spotted by their consistency of negative attacks and never offering new insights on what the government is doing to undermine American freedom. All they say is they can't do this, can't do that.

A bronze badge does not make a patriot . Anyone can buy one !

What they do and say is worth ignoring, but not worth engaging.
Use your time keeping information going out and engage the Senate and Congress and fight for the freedom we all are entitled to granted by the founders and the Constitution.



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At my age I shoot forward a lot better than I run backward.
Rearward movement is only used for a forward Advantage and better sight alignment !
 
You may want to check this out: Traitors (46 of them) Over the weekend, we came four votes away from the United States Senate giving our Constitutional rights over to the United Nations. In a 53-46 vote, the senate narrowly passed a measure that will stop the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. The Statement of Purpose from the bill
read: To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration, would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms.
The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S., and had language that would have implemented an international gun registry on all private guns and ammo.
Astonishingly, 46 of our United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power. Here are the 46 senators that voted to give your rights to the U.N. Baldwin (D-WI) Baucus (D-MT) Bennet
(D-CO) Blumenthal (D-CT) Boxer (D-CA) Brown (D-OH) Cantwell (D-WA) Cardin
(D-MD) Carper (D-DE) Casey (D-PA) Coons (D-DE) Cowan (D-MA) Durbin (D-IL) Feinstein (D-CA) Franken (D-MN) Gillibrand
(D-NY) Harkin (D-IA) Hirono (D-HI) Johnson (D-SD) Kaine (D-VA) King
(I-ME) Klobuchar (D-MN) Landrieu (D-LA) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) McCaskill
(D-MO) Menendez (D-NJ) Merkley (D-OR) Mikulski (D-MD) Murphy
(D-CT) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Rockefeller
(D-WV) Sanders (I-VT) Schatz (D-HI) Schumer (D-NY) Shaheen (D-NH) Stabenow
(D-MI) Udall (D-CO) Udall (D-NM) Warner (D-VA) Warren (D-MA) Whitehouse
(D-RI) Wyden (D-OR People this needs to go viral. These Senators voted to let the UN take our guns. They need to lose the election. We have been betrayed. 46 Senators Voted to Give your 2nd Amendment Constitutional Rights to the U.N.

Note: both of our Oregon Senators voted to give away our 2nd Amendment Rights. We have to make them pay for that at the next election.

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Now you are talking. Kick apathy to the curb and make 2014 and 2016 our victory. We need a NEW Congress and A NEW senate. Corruption has swallowed the current one.
We will have to be louder and more persistent than the MSM to accomplish it.

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At my age I shoot forward a lot better than I run backward.
Rearward movement is only used for a forward Advantage and better sight alignment !
 
As much as I like Wyden for the way he has backed the NSA and others into a corner, he has once again failed on the 2A issue. After I write him and share my disappoinTment I will support whomever is pro-liberty running against he and that rat fink Merkely.
 
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As much as I like Wyden for the way he has backed the NSA and others into a corner, he has once again failed on the 2A issue. After I write him and share my disappoinTment I will support whomever is pro-liberty running against he and that rat fink Merkely.

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There can't be, and Obama knows it. His background is in Constitutional Law. The POTUS can't create new laws with executive orders. He can only strengthen existing laws. Do not think that the words "executive order" mean that he has the power to do whatever he wants.

Exactly, and the news article mentioned that this treaty was "rumored to be a replacement for the Second amendment" come on people, this is just FEAR mongering. Worst president ever, yes, but some of this crap is just that, CRAP
 
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Now you are talking. Kick apathy to the curb and make 2014 and 2016 our victory. We need a NEW Congress and A NEW senate. Corruption has swallowed the current one.
We will have to be louder and more persistent than the MSM to accomplish it.


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At my age I shoot forward a lot better than I run backward.
Rearward movement is only used for a forward Advantage and better sight alignment !

:s0155: :s0155: :winkkiss: Now that is one of the Best Actual Ideas I have ever heard on this site putting all things aside. Put these old dudes who have been in there for ages out to pasture and get rid of most of the rest of them. These people are suppose to represent US, the people. Personal gains and political step laddering is more of their motives. Until there are actual people who want and will represent US for our wants and beliefs, we might as well look to corporate America for our laws and legal imprisonment as Citizens of the u.s.
 
Worst president. Ever.
The independent conservatives, hard rights, Libertarian, Christian conservatives, Tea Partiers, Union types that worry about their kid's future and all who don't want to pretty much guarantee a more Socialist nation better get off their high horse and start voting Republican or we are going to lose this country.
I'm Independent conservative leaning and don't like
the Republicans as they are now, but throwing away a vote in protest gets us two terms of O, and H is waiting to take the throne. Lesser of two evils is all we got unless I'm missing something.
 
The independent conservatives, hard rights, Libertarian, Christian conservatives, Tea Partiers, Union types that worry about their kid's future and all who don't want to pretty much guarantee a more Socialist nation better get off their high horse and start voting Republican or we are going to lose this country.
I'm Independent conservative leaning and don't like
the Republicans as they are now, but throwing away a vote in protest gets us two terms of O, and H is waiting to take the throne. Lesser of two evils is all we got unless I'm missing something.

What needs to happen is (sick) one more law.
This one would criminalize running on a platform of conservative pro constitution and once elected, voting and aiding the democrats.
Ie ; become a rino, do the time behind bars. It would sure get rid of the turncoats.

Running on a false platform to get elected an then going the opposite is PURE FRAUD ! It should be treated as such.

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At my age I shoot forward a lot better than I run backward.
Rearward movement is only used for a forward Advantage and better sight alignment !
 
The independent conservatives, hard rights, Libertarian, Christian conservatives, Tea Partiers, Union types that worry about their kid's future and all who don't want to pretty much guarantee a more Socialist nation better get off their high horse and start voting Republican or we are going to lose this country.
I'm Independent conservative leaning and don't like
the Republicans as they are now, but throwing away a vote in protest gets us two terms of O, and H is waiting to take the throne. Lesser of two evils is all we got unless I'm missing something.

We have already lost this country.
 
The independent conservatives, hard rights, Libertarian, Christian conservatives, Tea Partiers, Union types that worry about their kid's future and all who don't want to pretty much guarantee a more Socialist nation better get off their high horse and start voting Republican or we are going to lose this country.
I'm Independent conservative leaning and don't like
the Republicans as they are now, but throwing away a vote in protest gets us two terms of O, and H is waiting to take the throne. Lesser of two evils is all we got unless I'm missing something.

The Republicans work for the some people The O works for. While there is no doubt that Republicans are the lesser of the two evils, they are still very evil.

What would be better would be for people to stop accepting that when the ultra-rich present their two choices that both will do what they want that it is the "American Way". A choice between Hitler and Mussolini isn't really a choice.

That more people aren't outraged by the healthcare theft, UN small arms treaties, the IRS(which obviously took orders from the top) and the NSA is pathetic. The people that refuse to open their eyes and go willingly to their death or concentration camp get exactly what they deserve.

The only difference between Romney being Prez is that his administration wouldn't be arrogant enough to do this right in front of our faces. Anyone that thinks the last administration, this one and the next aren't completely violating every citizen in this country is complicit.
 
We have already lost this country.

NOT UNLESS YOU WAT TO GIVE IT AWAY.
We will continue to fight for it and will never accept a defeatist attitude. The people can never lose hope ! That is exactly what the opposition wants us to do.
NEVER !
It should make everyone want to fight even harder. And.... Fight we will.

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At my age I shoot forward a lot better than I run backward.
Rearward movement is only used for a forward Advantage and better sight alignment !
 
The fringe extreme leftist elements and other disillusioned socialists types although unhappy with Obama and his ilk for being too moderate, STILL get together when it counts and VOTE Democrat. They know that although they aren't getting all their gun control and "social justice" mumbo jumbo all in one or two terms, the lesser of two evils will get them closer.
The lesser of two evils is an easy choice for me. Although the old guard Republican party is still entrenched, they have a lot of new Tea party types rising through the ranks. Fractured conservative groups going off in 5 different directions will not get us closer to maintaining 2nd A. rights and the other things. Picking the lesser of two evils will, if not get us closer, might just hold the line until the good guys rise in the ranks and take the helm of the Republican party.
 
We have already lost this country.
I've lived worked and traveled a lot in Scandinavia, Germany, Ireland and a bit of England. As eroded as our rights have become we're doing more than O.K. in comparison. Areas of these countries are fine and in some ways better than here but European Socialism has destroyed a lot of their freedoms and liberal immigration policies have destroyed their culture.
Because of low birthrates among native Europeans and a rapid population growth among Muslim immigrants it's anybody's guess what western European Govts. will look like in 10 more years. I've got no place else to go so I keep fighting to turn things around here at home. We are a big country and it's not lost yet.
 

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