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Obama selling more guns and munitions than Bush!

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Trlsmn, Aug 12, 2010.

  1. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Obama Administration Pushing To Expand U.S. Arms Exports By Gutting Approval Process

    Obama Administration Pushing To Expand U.S. Arms Exports By Gutting Approval Process

    Obama sounds like a warhawk! :p

    WASHINGTON — The United States is currently the world biggest weapons supplier — holding 30 per cent of the market — but the Obama administration has begun modifying export control regulations in hopes of enlarging the U.S. market share, according to U.S. officials.

    President Barack Obama already has taken the first steps by tucking new language into the Iran sanctions bill signed in early July. His aides are now compiling the "munitions list," which regulates the sale of military items.

    The administration's stated reason for the changes is to simplify the sale of weapons to U.S. allies, but potential spinoffs include generating business for the U.S. defense industry, creating jobs and contributing to Obama's drive to double U.S. exports by 2015.
     
  2. Benny503

    Benny503 Grants Pass Well-Known Member

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    I am not surprise... Look at us... We buy more guns since O became president :)
     
  3. KenPDX

    KenPDX Portland Member

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    See he really is stimulating the economy :laugh::laugh:
     
  4. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Hmmm.... this sounds like a job for OLLIE NORTH!!! :D
     
  5. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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    HAHAHAHAHA:laugh:HAHAHAHA:bluelaugh:
     
  6. elsie

    elsie Way over there on the left Well-Known Member

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    Being the paranoid sort, I see it more as an attempt to divert the civilian supply to overseas markets... B-)


    elsie
     
  7. batcat6

    batcat6 Vancouver, WA Member

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    Someone tell me the price difference between an Obamamaster and my Bushmaster. :laugh: :laugh:
     
  8. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
     
  9. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Can I gets me an AMEN?!!! :thumbup:
     
  10. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Was reading somewhere that South Korea was wanting to sell us back a bunch of M1 Garrands and Carbines but Obama refused to let them.

    jj
     
  11. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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  12. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmmm..... Isn't lake city arsenal in the great Lincoln State of Illinois? Isn't BHO's home state Illinois?

    I smell a kick back brewing. This joker doesn't do anything without a return for his efforts.

    SF-
     
  13. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    bingo!!
     
  14. Artilleryman

    Artilleryman Originally from the central midwest but have reloc Active Member

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    I think Lake City is in Independence Mo, or there's probably multiple sites...but either way, bho is sure to be benefitting
     
  15. elsullo

    elsullo Portland Oregon New Member

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    Col. Oliver North worked for the Reagan White House in the mid-1980's. He was involved in the planning and illegal selling of sophisticated missiles to the Revolutionary Government of IRAN. Remember the Iranian hostage crisis in the late-1970's? And the virulent hatred preached by Iran toward the USA in those days? This was at the same time that Iran was at war with our "official" ally, Iraq. Kind of awkward diplomacy when the truth came out! The cash proceeds from this illegal sale were used to illegally create and fund the counter-revolutionary Contras in Nicaragua and pay the CIA mercenaries who serviced them, which had been specifically forbidden by the US Congress (elected by the People to make the laws.) When the scam was revealed Col. North and his staff tried their utmost to destroy or conceal all documents regarding the breach of law. He was undone by this new thing called "email" because he failed to delete all traces of those records that had been transmitted, and it was easy for criminal investigators to reveal just what crimes had been committed. Col. North and his staff claimed that they were serving a "higher law." Many who were paying attention called it "treason.".............................elsullo :cool:
     
  16. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    You mean the leftist pundits who were paying attention called it "treason", which is B.S. because he didn't BETRAY our country (maybe he betrayed the Congress... but they do that to everyone else anyway, so it was PAYBACK TIME!!), he broke laws, yes, but using leftist political hyperbole just makes anyone using it look like a drone...

    Copied from the wiki...


    North was tried in 1988 in relation to his activities while at the National Security Council. He was indicted on sixteen felony counts and on May 4, 1989, he was initially convicted of three: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents (by his secretary, Fawn Hall, on his instructions). He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours community service. I don't see "treason" listed among the SIXTEEN indictments... :D

    However, on July 20, 1990, with the help of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), North's convictions were vacated, after the appeals court found that witnesses in his trial might have been impermissibly affected by his immunized congressional testimony. I almost fell out of my chair when I read this!!

    Because North had been granted limited immunity for his Congressional testimony, the law prohibited the independent counsel (or any prosecutor) from using that testimony as part of a criminal case against him. To prepare for the expected defense challenge that North's testimony had been used, the prosecution team had, before North's congressional testimony had been given, listed and isolated all its evidence; further, the individual members of the prosecution team had isolated themselves from news reports and discussion of North's testimony. While the defense could show no specific instance where any part of North's congressional testimony was used in his trial, the Court of Appeals ruled that the trial judge had made an insufficient examination of the issue, and ordered North's convictions reversed. The Supreme Court declined to review the case. After further hearings on the immunity issue, Judge Gesell dismissed all charges against North on September 16, 1991, on the motion of the independent counsel.




    Hear that? Nothin' but net!!! :D