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Obama says broadband Internet should be regulated

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by erudne, Nov 10, 2014.

  1. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    Obama says broadband Internet should be regulated like utilityPresident Obama calls for tighter regulations -- leaving a little bit of wiggle room -- in an effort to preserve a "free and open Internet."






    FCC_Commissioners_November_2013.jpg The FCC commissioners (left to right): Ajit Pai, Mignon Clyburn, Tom Wheeler (chairman), Jessica Rosenworcel, and Michael O'Rielly. FCC President Barack Obama urged the government to adopt tighter regulations on broadband service in an effort to preserve "a free and open Internet."
    In a statement released Monday, Obama called on the Federal Communications Commission to enforce the principle of treating Internet the same way, also known as Net neutrality. That means treating broadband services like utilities, so Internet service providers would be unable "to restrict the best access or to pick winners and losers in the online marketplace for services and ideas."
    Obama wades into a contentious debate that has raged over how to treat Internet traffic, which has only heated up as the FCC works to prepare an official guideline. Those rules were expected to be made available later this year, though reports now claim they may be delayed until early 2015. The debate has centered on whether broadband should be placed under Title II regulation under the Telecommunications Act, which already tightly controls phone services.
    Proponents believes Title II regulation would ensure the free and fair flow of traffic across the Internet. Opponents, however, believe the onerous rules would limit investment in the infrastructure and new services, and that toll roads of sorts would provide better service to companies that can support their higher traffic volumes. That has created widespread concern that ISPs could throttle service in some instance, intentionally slowing down some content streams and speeding up others.
    Some of the major broadband providers have already spoken out against the plan. "Reclassification under Title II, which for the first time would apply 1930s-era utility regulation to the Internet, would be a radical reversal of course that would in and of itself threaten great harm to an open Internet, competition and innovation," Verizon said in an e-mailed statement.


    "Today's announcement by the White House, if acted upon by the FCC, would be a mistake that will do tremendous harm to the Internet and to U.S. national interests," said Jim Cicconi, AT&T senior executive vice president for external and legislative affairs, in a statement.
    "To attempt to impose a full-blown Title II regime now, when the classification of cable broadband has always been as an information service, would reverse nearly a decade of precedent, including findings by the Supreme Court that this classification was proper," David Cohen, executive vice president at Comcast, said in a statement.
    The broadband providers have advocated for a "light-touch" regulatory environment that has been in place, which they argue has been the catalyst for wireless and broadband investment.
    The FCC earlier this year saw a vigorous response from the public to its call for comments on its Open Internet proposals, with the FCC's servers sometimes stumbling and crashing under the overwhelming input. The comment window closed in September.
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    In April, FCC chairman Tom Wheeler came under fire after an early proposal for his rules on Internet access were made available. While Wheeler has said that he fully supports the open Internet, the proposal could allow for paid prioritization of Internet traffic.
    "I will say it again, there is nothing in the proposal that authorizes fast lanes on the Internet," the chairman said earlier this year. "It simply asks questions, such as should there be a ban on paid prioritization. But there is nothing in the rule that authorizes it."
    At the crux of the debate over Net neutrality is Title II of the Telecommunications Act. The section, which is more than 100 pages long, regulates how common carriers must conduct business across all forms of communication in order to act "in the public interest." Net neutrality supporters say that the language is vague and could be used to sidestep a free and open Internet and give ISPs the opportunity to sign deals with Internet companies that would provide for prioritization of traffic.
    Obama, however, said that the FCC should limit some of the regulation relating to rates and "other provisions less relevant to broadband," creating potential wiggle room for further debate on the limitations.
    Still, the reference to Title II marks a clear stake in the ground for the White House.
    "This is a basic acknowledgment of the services ISPs provide to American homes and businesses, and the straightforward obligations necessary to ensure the network works for everyone -- not just one or two companies," Obama said
     
  2. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    The large companies have been fighting this for a while now.

    I keep getting email updates on the status of the "free and open web". A simple search on Google "net neutrality" will give you enough information to make your head explode.
     
  3. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Censorship and control and tax tax tax, and control and censorship, the imposter pres never quits.
     
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  4. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Essentially they just want to shut up opposition.
    Hope folks see through the bull on this. Just like the papers did when they found out they were being monitored. Silly mindless fools.

    They should hang the folks who even thought this up, It's too treasonous not to.
     
  5. 2506

    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    The Internet, and the technological and economic boom it spawned, is what it is today, because of neutrality.

    This is just another example of the strategy of the conservative Oligarch Lords, who are the masters of the indentured servant Republicans, to be against anything that smells of being democrat.

    The liberal Oligarch Lords, who are the masters of the indentured servant democrats, are on the fence about this one, not fighting… because a hybrid/tiered internet benefits them as well.


    Bottom line: We the People are screwed.
     
  6. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Since Algore invented it, so why can't other Dems control it? :rolleyes:
     
  7. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Look on th bright side.
    Repubs are going to have to try hard not to win in 2016.

    Btw. How can we censur the that monkey?
    Loved his Asian outfit.
    Dude needs a good ol azz whoopin. By Merle, Johnny, and Waylon

    Oh yea, and hank. Can't forget hank
     
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  8. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    We're from the government and we're here to help us.....................YOU.....it's you we're here to help!

    Don't ya miss the old days when the government was just incompent instead of inimical and incompent?
     
  9. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Here's how this will roll. Number #1, liberals hate being censured. Period! Number #2, liberals and repubs love there internet.
    THIS will only strengthen the cause for, whites, blacks, libs, tea bags, gays, straights, purples, together. To fight the goverment.
    The 1st amendment means a lot to everyone.
     
  10. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    So you guys are okay with ISP's dictating what you can and cannot look at? What happens when Comcast decides to be anti-gun and throttles or cuts off access to sites like these? We see it already today with companies like Dick's no longer selling EBR's. Even Cheaper then Dirt knee jerked and pulled guns. I don't trust the Government but I trust corporate America even less. If they can make a dime they will and have shown already they have no problem telling gun owners to F-off. Comcast could be the next Chili's in the gun debate.
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Inimical is a completely underused word. I applaud you, good sir.
     
  12. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Haven't we all moved past caring what this dim wit community organizer thinks? I mean really he should just sit onhis hands for the next two years until him and the Ole lady can see if they can get away with stealing the silverware the way the Clinton's tired to.
     
  13. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Let's first get a bead on what it is we're talking about here:

    "Net neutrality (also network neutrality or Internet neutrality) is the principle that Internet service providers and governments should treat all data on the Internet equally, not discriminating or charging differentially by user, content, site, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or mode of communication. The term was coined by Columbia University media law professor Tim Wu in 2003 as an extension of the longstanding concept of a common carrier."
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    In this particular instance, I wish Obama would have taken a position against net neutrality. Problem solved--Republicans would've passed a net-neutrality bill faster than you can say Benghazi.
     
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  15. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    You and me both. I am worried his toxic opinion has poisoned the idea.
     
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  16. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    CONSERVATIVE MY AZZ It is OBAMA's CENSORSHIP BS AS USUAL. THEY DON'T GET MORE LIBERAL THAN HE IS.
     
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  17. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Obama has been trying to silence the right since 2008. He is a dictator and tyrant in every way imaginable.
    Yet what do you bet they still wont impeach the azzwipe even with a majority in the Senate and the Congress.
    The SOB has to be an Apothis wannabe or what ever that stargate clown was called.
    Sometimes I think they got that character from that clown in our Whitehouse..
    He sure acts like him and has some weird sick power over Washington. Probably has threatened all their families ,...............................He's Clinton's Alien .....

    ,
     
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  18. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    So.......your okay with our rights being sold to a money grubbing company who will cross them for their bottom line?
     
  19. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    You are one weird dude. I don't condone selling any rights to anyone. Stop smoking that crap.............

    The net needs to stay free and open.................!
     
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  20. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Well how is it going to do that? The companies that manage the access are moving to take that freedom away, how is that to be prevented without government involvement?

    Not trying to be an bubblegum here, just don't see any other option then the Gov't getting involved.