obama and guns

[Partsproduction]

The man hates all our rights, believing everything remotely related to original American ideals is corrupt according to his marxist ideals, But practically speaking he hates any right especially that he can't use to destroy America, that means he really hates the second amendment!

The deck is stacked, obama wins 2012, he owns the media, he wasn't groomed for the job by his KGB handlers just to be cast out by a vote after all that work. They own the whole system now. PC liberalism is the marxism of today, begun in 1921 in the soviet union it is alive and well and thriving. McCarthy was right.

 

[sheepdip]

There has been a change in U.S. military burial protocol!
This is a letter that my good friend's husband wrote today after his uncle's
funeral yesterday. If Obama does not want his name associated with our
military, he does not deserve to be "The President of the United States". -
Alice Frankovitch
REMEMBER THIS on NOVEMBER 6, 2012

Dear Sean,
Today I was incensed at the conclusion of a traditional Serbian-Orthodox
funeral for my beloved 85-year-old uncle, Daniel Martich, who proudly served
in the US Army during the Korean conflict. During the committal service at a
Pittsburgh cemetery the local military detachment performed their ritual,
then folded and presented the American Flag to my aunt.
As I'm sure you have witnessed during military funerals, a soldier bends to
one knee and recites a scripted message to a surviving relative that begins
'On behalf of the President of the United States and a grateful nation, I
wish to present you with this flag in appreciation for your husband's
service ..'
However, today the dialogue was 'On behalf of the Secretary of Defense and a
grateful nation...'
After the service, I approached the soldier who presented the flag to my
aunt to inquire about the change in language. His response was: "The White
House notified all military funeral service detachments to immediately
remove 'the President' and insert 'the Secretary of Defense'.
I couldn't believe what I heard! The soldier just smiled and said, "You can
draw your own conclusion, Sir, but that was the order". He, too, was ashamed
of what he was required to say.
the president has taken off the gloves. My only response to this endless cesspool of
anti-American rhetoric dripping from his mouth is to borrow a phrase "with
one minor change" uttered by another temporary Washington resident living in
government housing (his wife!): "Today for the first time in my adult life,
I am ashamed of the current U.S. President!"
I did not serve in the military but my love of country parallels that of
people like my late uncle who bled red, white and blue. As a second
generation Serbian-American who's heritage produced many patriotic military
men and women who fought for freedom both in the United States as well as in
the former Yugoslavia (most recently in Kosovo against the slaughter of
Serbs by Muslim extremists), I implore you to make the American people aware
of this little-known or, at least, publicly acknowledged fact.
May God Bless you and your family during these difficult times. Your voice
of reason is a welcome change from the insanity plastered across the country
by the liberal media. Keep up the great work and thank you for your service
to our country.

 

[fd15k]

The man hates all our rights, believing everything remotely related to original American ideals is corrupt according to his marxist ideals, But practically speaking he hates any right especially that he can't use to destroy America, that means he really hates the second amendment!

The deck is stacked, obama wins 2012, he owns the media, he wasn't groomed for the job by his KGB handlers just to be cast out by a vote after all that work. They own the whole system now. PC liberalism is the marxism of today, begun in 1921 in the soviet union it is alive and well and thriving. McCarthy was right.

or

 

[Kevatc]

It would be unintelligent to think he won't come after gunowners if he gets re-elected. He will and he will do it with a vengence. He will appoint socialist, marxist, communist and other fringe judges, he will sign any executive order he can to stop importation and ban sales and he will demand congeress act.

This man hates guns, hates whites, hates wealth and despises religious freedom. If he could send you to a death camp, he would gladly sign the order.

He despises America, he says it over and over again and the media ignores it or gives him a pass,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,why? They are devoted marxists as well.

Go read the definition of "socialism", marxism or communism sometime,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then watch him speak on youtube and repeat the same phrases and espouse the same ideals. Then go read the definition of "liberalism" and you will notice he is not "liberal" by any means.

Fear. Fear. Fear. He's a socialist. More fear. He's a Muslim. Fear. Fear. Fear. He's gonna take yer guns. Fear. Fear. Fear. More fear. Marxist. Socialist. Teleprompter reader. More fear. Fear. Racist. Death camps. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. If it weren't so pathetic this would be comical.

I have no idea what you're for but I know what you fear. I know what you fear but I have no idea what your solutions might be. Apparently the only solution is get Obama out of office and all will be well.

There must be big money in sowing fear or there wouldn't be so much unintelligent goofball baloney out there.

 

[locobob]

There has been a change in U.S. military burial protocol!
This is a letter that my good friend's husband wrote today after his uncle's
funeral yesterday. If Obama does not want his name associated with our
military, he does not deserve to be "The President of the United States". -
Alice Frankovitch
REMEMBER THIS on NOVEMBER 6, 2012

Dear Sean,
Today I was incensed at the conclusion of a traditional Serbian-Orthodox
funeral for my beloved 85-year-old uncle, Daniel Martich, who proudly served
in the US Army during the Korean conflict. During the committal service at a
Pittsburgh cemetery the local military detachment performed their ritual,
then folded and presented the American Flag to my aunt.
As I'm sure you have witnessed during military funerals, a soldier bends to
one knee and recites a scripted message to a surviving relative that begins
'On behalf of the President of the United States and a grateful nation, I
wish to present you with this flag in appreciation for your husband's
service ..'
However, today the dialogue was 'On behalf of the Secretary of Defense and a
grateful nation...'
After the service, I approached the soldier who presented the flag to my
aunt to inquire about the change in language. His response was: "The White
House notified all military funeral service detachments to immediately
remove 'the President' and insert 'the Secretary of Defense'.
I couldn't believe what I heard! The soldier just smiled and said, "You can
draw your own conclusion, Sir, but that was the order". He, too, was ashamed
of what he was required to say.
Obama has taken off the gloves. My only response to this endless cesspool of
anti-American rhetoric dripping from his mouth is to borrow a phrase "with
one minor change" uttered by another temporary Washington resident living in
government housing (his wife!): "Today for the first time in my adult life,
I am ashamed of the current U.S. President!"
I did not serve in the military but my love of country parallels that of
people like my late uncle who bled red, white and blue. As a second
generation Serbian-American who's heritage produced many patriotic military
men and women who fought for freedom both in the United States as well as in
the former Yugoslavia (most recently in Kosovo against the slaughter of
Serbs by Muslim extremists), I implore you to make the American people aware
of this little-known or, at least, publicly acknowledged fact.
May God Bless you and your family during these difficult times. Your voice
of reason is a welcome change from the insanity plastered across the country
by the liberal media. Keep up the great work and thank you for your service
to our country.

snopes.com: Change in Military Funeral Protocol

I don't care if you want to hate Obama, everyone is entitled to their opinion.... but don't use a bunch of made up b.s. to justify it.

 

[sheepdip]

that may or may not be made up b.s. just passing it along.

 

[locobob]

that may or may not be made up b.s. just passing it along.

Snopes says the change was made in 2007 - well before Obama was in office.

I do like your D.M. Bennett quote... might have to use that next time I'm debating some anti-gunner about concealed carry

 

[FourTeeFive]

snopes.com: Change in Military Funeral Protocol

I don't care if you want to hate Obama, everyone is entitled to their opinion.... but don't use a bunch of made up b.s. to justify it.

Military Protocols for Funerals Changed by Order of the White House-Fiction!

I agree. I keep seeing a huge amount of garbage being passed along as truth. It does a disservice to our cause and causes all of us to be lumped into the whacko category.

I don't honestly believe Obama is controlled by the Russians (I was in Russia years ago.. you're giving them MUCH too much credit). I believe he was once a socialist and might still be.

What I DO know is he's another useless, inexperienced politician that was raised to the level of messiah by the liberal media. And he's scared of people with real thought and an understanding of the constitution. And that he's a classic narcissist. So I'll just be glad when he's no longer in power and can sit back and live the rest of his life on our tax dollars. It will be money well spent at that point.

 

[sheepdip]

i looked at your link and found that someone ahead of me had edited to fit their adgenda. still an embarrasment. looks like if the change was made in 2007 we can point the stinkfinger at bush jr.


i will try to check things out closer before posting here. i try not to be a pusher of b.s. but this one slipped by

 

[Partsproduction]

People who react negatively against the exposure of obama as a marxist are possibly following the mantra ADEMCA, especially the last part, "Make Counter Accusations", people working for the anti America cause when exposed will Deny Everything, Admit Nothing, and, (when that fails) Make Counter Accusations". Read Kent Clizbe's expose of marxism in America (Willing Accomplices) and the tactics will become very clear. When cornered, "ADEMCA", follow the three principles and the naive will assume there is something to your position. I do believe there are active members of the hate America first group that frequent gun forums, they also voted for obama. One of them in this forum recently said he would rather vote again for obama rather than for anyone who would work against his "right" to practice deviance.

 

[fd15k]

People who react negatively against the exposure of obama as a marxist are possibly following the mantra ADEMCA, especially the last part, "Make Counter Accusations", people working for the anti America cause when exposed will Deny Everything, Admit Nothing, and, (when that fails) Make Counter Accusations". Read Kent Clizbe's expose of marxism in America (Willing Accomplices) and the tactics will become very clear. When cornered, "ADEMCA", follow the three principles and the naive will assume there is something to your position. I do believe there are active members of the hate America first group that frequent gun forums, they also voted for obama. One of them in this forum recently said he would rather vote again for obama rather than for anyone who would work against his "right" to practice deviance.

 

[FourTeeFive]

Ok, for some reason I'll bite. Why do you think Obama is a Marxist and what has he done to lead us in that direction?

And where in the world is Marxism powerful enough to be a force to be even considered as a threat?

Maybe I'm naive, but I just don't see it...

Personally I think the whole "commie threat" thing was just the previous version of the Taliban. A created Boogieman to keep us in fear so that we think we need a powerful government. And so we can keep feeding billions of our hard-earned dollars into the Military Industrial Complex.

 

[soberups]

This man hates guns, hates whites, hates wealth and despises religious freedom. If he could send you to a death camp, he would gladly sign the order.

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His mother was white.

And while I dont agree with his politics, I do think its downright ridiculous to state that the man would "send us all to death camps" if he could.

 

[Partsproduction]

Some in this forum seem to have trouble believing that obama is a marxist, I can't understand that, his relationship with Alinsky is more than enough for me. "Barack Obama, plays down his mentorship with Communist author Saul Alinsky. But Alinsky's son, L. David Alinsky, credits Obama for "learning his lesson well" from the Communist guru."

But there's lots more for anyone without his head stuck up his bubblegum!

 

[fd15k]

His mother was white.

He hates his mother!

 

[Partsproduction]

Personally I think the whole "commie threat" thing was just the previous version of the Taliban.

Deny everything!

 

[Kevatc]

People who react negatively against the exposure of obama as a marxist are possibly following the mantra ADEMCA, especially the last part, "Make Counter Accusations", people working for the anti America cause when exposed will Deny Everything, Admit Nothing, and, (when that fails) Make Counter Accusations". Read Kent Clizbe's expose of marxism in America (Willing Accomplices) and the tactics will become very clear. When cornered, "ADEMCA", follow the three principles and the naive will assume there is something to your position. I do believe there are active members of the hate America first group that frequent gun forums, they also voted for obama. One of them in this forum recently said he would rather vote again for obama rather than for anyone who would work against his "right" to practice deviance.

That certainly is an interesting exercise in discrediting an opposing perspective. Take out the ADEMCA and your argument could be applied to either side of the political debate.

The thing about Conservatism is that the true koolaid drinking believers can never recognize when their own argument can be just as equally damning to their perspective.

 

[biggie24420]

 

[Kevatc]

"You were this close to proving I was a Islamic Mullah from Kenya who moved to Hawaii when I was a zygote knowing full well I would one day be the President of the United States. This close!"

 

[Partsproduction]

We who have seen this tyrant hoodwinking fools since day one are wondering when they will finally get their heads out of their bubblegums! We saw it right at the first! We suffer fools, but not gladly! It's far past time to rectify your mistake, and rectification starts with the admission that you made one.

We, the patriotic opposition are tired of PC progressives failing in their duties to see and rectify the problem, that is, their inability to see their mistake, admit it out in the open, and start to work with us against libtardism. The really weird part about this is that we are in a gun forum! If there is anywhere that people should be able to see the enemy it's here.

I was born in Oregon, yes, I'm tempted to move to Idaho or Arizona where the majority of people are conservative, but the fact is most libtards came from elsewhere and are dumping their marxist ideas in my state. I'm really tired of it, I suffer for your mistakes and then when I complain I get ridiculed. defending libtardism is what is ridiculous!