Nighthawk Custom Korth

[PuddleMonkey]

What on earth are you two even arguing about?

 

[Certaindeaf]

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What on earth are you two even arguing about?

Piddlewink was saying.. yiffers! bless his little

 

[Certaindeaf]

But there's no law against that. nope

 

[The Heretic]

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What on earth are you two even arguing about?

I am not really sure

Funny thing is I was agreeing with him in this thread, but apparently his mood carried over from another thread.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Hey Hertick, have you ever even shot a revolver? Tell us a story to tell otherwise.

 

[The Heretic]

Hey Hertick, have you ever even shot a revolver? Tell us a story to tell otherwise.

Pew pew!

 

[The Heretic]

Lighten UP CD

 

[cigars]

So not only do you have troubles pronouncing things but you struggle with properly using quotes as well. You want to make sure your typed text is below the /QUOTE tag. It might be easier if you just give me your password and I'll do the posting for you from now on.

Thanks for the pointers, wow great! iI'm not sure what I would do without your expertise.

 

[cigars]

Duly noted. Have a nice day anyway.

 

[PuddleMonkey]

 

[Flopsweat]

Wow, everyone is all grouchy and stuff today.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Lighten UP CD

Sure.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Okay CD. You have a real erection for me today. So maybe I will just avoid you for a while until you cool down. I can't make sense of half your jargon anyway.

I hear you. you the yawn

 

[Stomper]

Someone needs a condom!

 

[Dr_Lou]

WTH is it made from, depleted scandiumimmodium mined from the Chandra-Levy-Shoemaker-33748 comet?

$3500 is in the same price range as a semi custom 1911, e.g., EB, Wilson, NH, etc. Hard to keep them on shelves.

 

[partsed]

Someone needs a condom!

More like a Snickers bar....

 

[Certaindeaf]

Then you're probably saying it wrong, Korth is pronounced "Court".




Here's a 5 year old post on a few revolvers including Korth. He went to Harvard so he's probably lying to you like Obama.


I own and shoot a good number of Korth revolvers that I imported from Germany. I have a similar number of Manurhins, which I am able to compare to a passel of Colt Pythons, Bankers and Police Positive Target Specials and Single Action Armies, as well as a good selection of Smith & Wesson's best, ranging from prewar Kit Guns to Registered Magnums and a Triple Lock Target.

As a preliminary evaluation of these revolvers, here are some talking points.

1. Based on my experience, the quality ratio of Colt to S&W is proportional to that of S&W to H&R. The Colts are much better made and more precisely fitted, of finer and stronger materials, than Smith & Wessons. I base this statement on the personally observed differences in working internal parts with a diamond file, and wear and peening in contact surfaces with comparable round counts. The Smith & Wesson single stage lockup is not nearly as precise as, but much more durable than, the Colt double stage lockup. The Smith & Wesson bolt is softer but less stressed than the Colt bolt. The S&W action is much easier to work on than the Colt action.
2. The Colt V-spring action as used in the Python with its "Bank Vault Lockup", is a licensed derivative of the Schmidt Galand patents. As the trigger of these revolvers is pulled, the double hand forces the cylinder against the locking bolt. The harder the trigger is pulled the tighter the cylinder is locked. Consequently, as the cylinder recoils, it compresses the hand, eventually peening it out of spec. This is all the more applicable to Magnum chamberings never contemplated by the original European inventors. The ensuing requirement for periodic maintenance is the price you have to pay for shooting a Python.
3. Every Colt double action revolver that I own, including unfired and factory overhauled guns, fails to carry up when thumb-braked in the course of cocking the hammer, though it carries up when the cylinder is free to rotate in the course of cocking the hammer, no matter how slowly I cock it. So either this tuneup represents a factory error, or the factory considers this condition normal. The basic features of Colt double action revolvers are well summarized by Grant Cunningham: "Colt revolvers have actions which are very refined. Their operating surfaces are very small, and are precisely adjusted to make the guns work properly. Setting them up properly is not a job for someone who isn't intimately familiar with their workings, and the gunsmith who works on them had better be accustomed to working at narrow tolerances, on small parts, under magnification." On the other hand, by referring to a copy of Kuhnhausen's shop manual, I was able to fit a new bolt to one of my Bankers Specials using NSk calipers, S&W screwdrivers, the diamond-coated file of a Leatherman Charge TTi, and a wooden shaft. So I agree that Colt actions are highly refined. I also agree that they require working at narrow tolerances, on small parts, under magnification. But much of that is within the reach of a hobbyist equipped with a $30 manual and $200 worth of hand tools.
4. The Manurhin MR73 is the best fighting revolver ever made, designed as a significantly improved S&W, crucially strengthened at the yoke, ingeniously refined at tensioning the hammer and the rebound slide, and manufactured to the quality standards of 1950s Colts. I have tried the current S&W revolvers. There is no comparison. In a nutshell, an early Python is a better revolver than a Registered Magnum, in the same sense whereby a Ferrari 330 P3/4 is a better car than a Ford GT40. But the MR73 is the only revolver I would take in harm's way, in the way I would choose the Citroën ZX over the Ferrari and the Ford for entry in the Paris-Dakar rally.
5. The market proves that S&W is king of revolvers in the same way, and to the same extent, that it proves that the Big Mac is the king of burgers. The problem with S&W is not design, but quality. Their basic action layout is capable of uncompromising performance, as witness this Manurhin chambered in .32 S&W Long, beating match guns by S&W, SAKO, and Walther. But in order to get a current production S&W to perform like that, you would have to rebarrel it and replace its MIM lockwork with increasingly unobtainable forged parts. And even then, it will not approach the quality of Manurhin's hammer-forged frame, barrel, and cylinder.
6. The Korth is by far the best made modern revolver, comparable in quality only to the best of the pre-WWI classics, from the French M1873, the Swiss M1878 and 1882, and the Mauser M1878. It is equal in precision to a Target Triple Lock, and far superior to it and the Registered Magnum alike in ruggedness and durability. Among post-WWII revolvers, only the first generation Colt Pythons compare to it in fit and finish. It is arguably the best sporting revolver ever made, as distinct from a social work tool such as the MR73. Its lockwork is hand ground out of steel forgings and deep hardened. It is nowise stressed at ignition, resulting in unexcelled durability and enabling Willi Korth to guarantee the same accuracy even after firing 50,000 Magnum rounds. Its design incorporates some Colt traits such as clockwise cylinder rotation, within an original layout that bears some resemblance to S&W two-point lockup and transport. Its ingenious hand detachable yoke is a great boon to regular maintenance, and its spring tensioned ejector built into the optional 9mm Para cylinder is the best such system that I ever used with rimless ammo in a revolver.

I cannot answer the question of subjective value. In Germany, used Korth revolvers of the latest design cost between 1,200 and 3,500 Euros, depending on the condition, configuration, and luck of the draw. By contrast, you would have to spend between 700 and 1,800 Euros for a used Manurhin MR73, and between 400 and 1,000 Euros for a used Colt Python. To put this in perspective, my nicest blue steel Korth cost me around $2,200 to acquire and import in a large combined lot. I wouldn't part with it for three times that price.

That guy sounds like an absolute doof.

 

[PuddleMonkey]

Most Harvard grads are.

 

[45 for me]

PuddleMonkey, is the monkey in your avatar picture doing what I think it's doing? That's just plain dirty.

I get spending ridiculous money on guns, at a certain point, it doesn't need to make sense if you can afford it, and enjoy them. In general these guns hold their value if you buy them used, so why not buy, enjoy, and if you need to, sell it off.

In this case though, I think the 70's era Smiths and Colts were so nicely made it's hard to improve on them. Single action triggers that will fire when you blow on them, tolerances so tight they look seamless.

 

[PuddleMonkey]

PuddleMonkey, is the monkey in your avatar picture doing what I think it's doing?

stop staring, pervert.