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Mayor McGinn: No more private sales at Seattle gun "buybacks"

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by mancat, Feb 8, 2013.

  1. mancat

    mancat Kitsap County Well-Known Member

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    Mayor McGinn thinks that the city has some sort of legal authority to prohibit private sales at any future "buybacks" held within the city.

    What authority does the city have to prevent such a thing? As far as I know, they have none. Not without possibly choosing a creative venue for the event to take place, such as a place where guns are already not allowed - maybe a school? The city could enact some sort of temporary exemption for only those participating in the buyback, which would be legally suspect in itself - but then, how do they stop private sales outside the venue?

    I see no way that he can do this legally by WA state law.

    Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn: No more sidewalk gun sales - Local - MyNorthwest.com
     
  2. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    My guess is they will try to interpret their authority to regulate commerce on City streets & sidewalks as a means to prevent these sales. Then, it won't be about what's sold, but that something is being sold. Will the courts agree with this? We'll see.
     
  3. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    Another chickens*** tyrant throwing a tantrum because the plebs don't do as they're told.
     
  4. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Private transactions aren't "commerce".
     
  5. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    This. He cannot claim the authority he wants to use if the deals are between private individuals. If dealers attempt to buy, he may be closer to correct in his assumptions...
     
  6. Bushman

    Bushman Auburn, WA Well-Known Member

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    Ha ha ha, what a tool.
     
  7. Rotty

    Rotty Skagit County Active Member

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    I don't know this for a fact but it's pretty safe to say the publicity that the Seattle Buy program got was not favorable. The fact that the Seattle buy back was coined a gun show in the media made him look bad (which I'm ok with by the way). Not to mention all of the guns and hardware he and his cronies missed out on. It's not surprising tha he is pitching a fit. The next buy back he'll probably authorize the Seattle PD to write tickets and confiscate the merchandise. He might use the street vendor liscensing to justify his decision. I'm guessing he will say something like "the buyer/seller were not lisenced to buy/sell within the city limits.

    Just guessing.
     
  8. clambo

    clambo Vancouver, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    They can and will do whatever they want. The law means whatever they want it to mean for purposes of convenience. Wait and see. My dad was right about a lot of things, one being, " You can't fight City Hall. "
     
  9. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    A random meeting of two individuals on a street with an offer from one person to buy the possession of the other person does not a vendor make. If this were true then anyone selling their motor vehicle via a private sale, a garage/yard/rummage sale, and EVERYONE in the classifieds within city limits selling their crap would need a business/vendors license. Also, since when did a "license to buy" (anything) become a requirement (anywhere)?

    I'm not even a lawyer and I could slam dunk this in a courtroom.
     
  10. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    :yes: :rockon: :yes:
     
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  11. SturgeonSlayer

    SturgeonSlayer St.Helens Active Member

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    So why don't those individual's who do go and wait outside and head off the sales all get together and collectively do a buy back of there own. Get the proper permits and secure a site and advertise there own buyback. absolutely nothing illegal about having a flea market of our own so to speak.
     
  12. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Is that sarcasm? LOL!
     
  13. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    I guess you can't put a for sale sign on your car in Seattle? Would be buyers in the future should agree to meet with the seller in another location.
     
  14. Rotty

    Rotty Skagit County Active Member

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    You are most likely right and I wasn't trying to indicate that I was right. I was only implying that Mayor McGinn would come up with something creative to enforce and/or interfere with folks making Face to Face purchases.
     
  15. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    you can and win but it is very expensive.
     
  16. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    your kidding right:rofl1: do you really think they will issue such a thing for that time frame
     
  17. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    probably just threatening arrest if they do any buy backs to intimidate people
     
  18. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes you can fight City Hall, and you can win...note the Parks carry ban?????
     
  19. Siuslaw Warrior

    Siuslaw Warrior Oregon Coast Member

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    Find a Seattle attorney that is also a supporter of gun rights to gift some legal advice and support for private sales... just a suggestion.

    Anyone?
     
  20. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    And then you could sue him in Federal court for violating your civil rights "under the color of law".
     
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