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Local media misrepresenting I-594

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by mancat, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. mancat

    mancat Kitsap County Well-Known Member

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    I switch a lot between various local news stations.

    In the last few weeks, both KOMO and KIRO radio, especially, have reported on the progress of I-594. The reporters in fact seem to be delighted and very excited about I-594, almost as if its passing is matter-of-fact, and something that all their listeners would want.

    KIRO even reported this morning that I-594 supporters who want extended background checks are "winning." I don't even know what this means. Doesn't sound like factual reporting to me - sounds more like opinion.

    To add to that, both KIRO and KOMO continually misrepresent the intentions of I-594, claiming that it would "close the gun show loophole" by extending background checks to "online sales" and private sales.

    I for one am sick of this "online sales" moniker being used to refer to Craigslist-style meeting places like Gunbroker and Armslist that facilitate face-to-face meetups of private sellers/buyers. The media conveys the idea to the uninformed that you can buy guns online and have them shipped straight to your door in Washington state. I have had to explain how this works to people over and over, and it seems like they've successfully convinced a huge amount of people that the internet is a gun-buying free-for-all.

    The kicker was on KIRO's morning news mention of I-594. They wrapped up the minute-long story on I-594 by stating that "gun rights supporters have a competing initiative." No details, no mention of the initiative number for I-591, nothing. Just a small little statement at the end of the story. Apparently gun rights supporters' competing initiative is not worth even a short description.

    Is it too much for even local media to accurately report on things like this?

    First batch of I-594 signatures turned in - AP State - MyNorthwest.com
     
  2. Charles98683

    Charles98683 Vancouver, WA Member

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    On the up side.... The more that the media wets their panties over gun control the more gun owners will hear about it and decide to actually vote. Pro gun rights people are prone to apathy in regards to politics when those rights aren't in the crosshairs.

    Also, Mid-Term elections tend to be lower turn out and a higher percentage conservative. Not that we shouldn't fight I-594 'til the last vote, but I'm not as concerned about this initiative as much as I was about the Manchin-Toomey bill. And we all know how that went down in flames...
     
  3. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    With the crap that has gone n in this state since they stole a Senatorship from Dino Rossi I don't have a lot of faith that this one won't win. The big counties' vote counting and certifications standards can be called in to question. Th anti gunners and the anti constitutionalist a do not care about enforcing the law of the land. Just dismantling it so they can enforce their own version.
    They know that the 2nd amendment Is a big roadblock.

    Brutus out.
     
  4. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Sure seems like it!

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  5. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    Well you can. So what is wrong with that statement??
     
  6. mancat

    mancat Kitsap County Well-Known Member

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    John do you know of a way to do it without holding an FFL or C&R FFL?

    Otherwise, there is no way I know of to legally have a firearm shipped to your door.
     
  7. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    You can ship door to door within WA state, as per ATF. handgun or rifle

    So you can buy one from NWFirearms or armslist, or other online forums and have it shipped to your door. ( as long the package in within WA )
     
  8. mancat

    mancat Kitsap County Well-Known Member

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    I have heard that but never heard of anyone actually doing it, instead choosing to play on the safe side and ship to an FFL.

    Have you done it?
     
  9. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    Yes.

    All the good deals seem to be in Vancouver, but I am not driving down there.


    The big issue is getting the other party to do it. Most don't know they can do it.
     
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  10. Oklahomie

    Oklahomie Marysville Active Member

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    "Internet sales" of guns sounds better than a mutual agreement to sell an article of personal property to another individual, face to face using the honor system.
     
  11. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    please show me where the ATF says that..
     
  12. MikeSettles

    MikeSettles Vancouver, Washington Active Member

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    Regarding misrepresentation of the news, I suggest phone, email, and twitter bombardment of the radio and tv stations. When they feel enough heat, they might actually start listening, and reporting, as they should.

    Not that I expect anything in the short run, but steady pressure might help.
     
  13. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    At least I've called it what it is...a 15-page gun control measure.
     
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  14. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    PM'd
     
  15. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Why not just post it John, so we all can see it. I don't know of anything like that unless it's a manufacture's return to the original purchaser, for warranty, or repair and that doesn't constitute a "Purchase".:huh:

    Jack...:cool:
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I just read the initiative, seems like another unenforceable law that legislators here in Washington love pass. My guess is that it will pass, unfortunately.
     
  17. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Actually it is true as long as the handgun never crosses a state line, just like a face to face in state sale/purchase.


    Deen
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  18. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    The corporate run Mainstream media never was your friend. EVER
     
  19. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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  20. usagi

    usagi Redmond Well-Known Member

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    the playing field was biased from the beginning.