Takes some education to stay out of the way of trouble but I guess Harvard doesn't cover that. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3260668/posts So where in Oregon or Washington are you least apt to be killed in a nuke attack? Can you get there in short notice with an emp burst a sure thing? Have you used your lamberfeeties much this year? How many days can you live out of that 60 lbs back pack you plan to carry.