Kita Busse Movement class in Kirkland WA 29-30 July 2023

[section31]

World famous trainer Kita Busse is coming to Washington in July.

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[SKN]

The pic on that flyer seems to show a rather unorthodox carry position for a pistol while moving. I understand she's a well regarded competition shooter. I'm interested to know if anyone has a description/explanation for that position.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

The pic on that flyer seems to show a rather unorthodox carry position for a pistol while moving. I understand she's a well regarded competition shooter. I'm interested to know if anyone has a description/explanation for that position.

I saw a photo similar to that one where the explanation was the match stage started "down range" and after engaging the first set of targets they turned to run "up range" and held the pistol like that to keep the muzzle pointed in the range mandated safe direction

I might have the Up and Down range confused, drinking a nice Tequila Old Fashioned tonight

 

[Cerberus Group]

Not saying one way or another for safety...unless ya got somone running with you to the rear, but have worked with many special units both Military and LE and can't recall that position ever coming up.

Not knowing it's origin, the least I would say is that it might be one of those temporary solutions to a specific problem to solve.

 

[drstrangelove]

The pic on that flyer seems to show a rather unorthodox carry position for a pistol while moving. I understand she's a well regarded competition shooter. I'm interested to know if anyone has a description/explanation for that position.

Only thing I can think of is there might be a retreat stage where it's faster to move away from the target by running forward with muzzle towards the backstop than trying to run backwards and falling on your keister... It is a WTF pic.
Addendum… what Vinniboombah said, agree!

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

The longer your stick around the more dangerous things you see people do in the name of safety

 

[SKN]

I saw a photo similar to that one where the explanation was the match stage started "down range" and after engaging the first set of targets they turned to run "up range" and held the pistol like that to keep the muzzle pointed in the range mandated safe direction

I might have the Up and Down range confused, drinking a nice Tequila Old Fashioned tonight

I would think if one was running at full speed up range the protocol would be to reholster.

 

[drstrangelove]

I would think if one was running at full speed up range the protocol would be to reholster.

It should be but like I said… WTF pic

 

[SKN]

Not saying one way or another for safety...unless ya got somone running with you to the rear, but have worked with many special units both Military and LE and can't recall that position ever coming up.

Not knowing it's origin, the least I would say is that it might be one of those temporary solutions to a specific problem to solve.

When I was working had a gangsta' throw a round at us over his shoulder kinda like that in a foot chase. Weren't able to find where it impacted. Also know of another instance at my agency where a armed robbery perpetrator bailed from a stolen vehicle and touched one off underhand on his firing hand side and behind him. That shot fragmented on the sidewalk and he lived to say it was unintentional.

 

[section31]

It is a common technique used in competition to move up range quickly while not violating the 180 degree rule in action pistol sports. It keeps the muzzle pointed at the berm.

 

[Stomper]

The longer your stick around the more dangerous things you see people do in the name of safety

Clearly, and EHS manager and a lawyer came up with that one….

 

[Cavedweller]

It is a common technique used in competition to move up range quickly while not violating the 180 degree rule in action pistol sports. It keeps the muzzle pointed at the berm.

Must be a pretty tall berm.

 

[nehalemguy]

I speed read the title and this popped up in my head.

 

[SKN]

It is a common technique used in competition to move up range quickly while not violating the 180 degree rule in action pistol sports. It keeps the muzzle pointed at the berm.

Why not move up range after reholstering? Because otherwise it seems to be simply a "speed" technique for moving and one I wouldn't trust to anyone but a experienced and uniquely skilled competitor.

 

[Juniper9mm]

It a classic Bond move. Shoot an assailant that's jumped on your back while pursing your lips to kiss your lover. It's been in almost every movie.

 

[Tarawa86]

Tom Cruise running vibes right there

 

[Papercidal]

The pic on that flyer seems to show a rather unorthodox carry position for a pistol while moving. I understand she's a well regarded competition shooter. I'm interested to know if anyone has a description/explanation for that position.

Running directly up range and keeping the muzzle down range.

 

[Member 18201]

Running directly up range and keeping the muzzle down range.

Looks a lot like tempting Murphy, or mebbe his cousin TripBamOw.

 

[titsonritz]

Hmmmm.

 

[osprey]

I am not sure her grip is correct as she is showing a lot of beavertail.