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Logging practices are an entirely different subject, there really isn't a comparison. I agree about the environmental impact of logging, but I live in a house made of wood. The solution to that is another subject but we need the timber industry. I don't "need" to target shoot for recreation in the forest, I "could" go to a range.... hopefully in the future I wont be forced to by law because above all, there is no reason not to pick up our own shooting trash and shoot respectably and leave no trace. I do it all the time.I have to admit I have a lot of trouble with that logic. Yea, I can see your point. But when you stop and consider how many people get enjoyment & recreation target shootin, I think the trash is minimal compared to the Logging. I see the huge tracts that were once beautiful forest - left looking like a nuclear wasteland after logging. I hardly think shooter's can begin to compare to what the loggers do.
edit to add...the reason places get closed down is the trash and vandalism left behind.
trash: targets, glass, blasted clay pigions, garbage...
Vandalism: shot up trees.
Without that there 'a logging, You wouldn't have anywhere to shoot either. If you do a lot of shooting at different locations surely some if not all your targets are in older cuts. otherwise it is dang hard to come up with long shooting ranges, Ever try finding a 1k range in national forest?I think the trash is minimal compared to the Logging. I see the huge tracts that were once beautiful forest - left looking like a nuclear wasteland after logging. I hardly think shooter's can begin to compare to what the loggers do.
Actually it might not be so easy to tell. So if I pull up and decide to use that spot thats already trashed would I get reported? Last time I went I used a spot that the trash was really fresh and I wasnt prepared to clean it all up. I took all the carboard boxes left behind to recycle but that was all I could do. A month earlier that spot was cleaned up by some folks and was nice to shoot at.Im honestly considering warning fellow shooters as I pass them whilr ride up to my spot that Ill be reporting liscense plate numbers if their shooting area isnt clean (littering) when I come back down .....
The other possibility is, is it fair? Perhaps all the hauls arent thiers.. But come one, you can tell the fresh from the old..
I agree with this.Shooting at a piece of trash left behind makes it YOUR target.
see the first photo that Lone Gunman put in post #5. Those orange pigeons are near impractical to clean up piece by piece and are really unsightly especially to other forest users.... which are the ones that protest and get places shut down.This is also the first I have heard of clay pigeons being any kind of problem.
I don't know about you but I give half my paycheck to Uncle Sam, and those are MY forest's!
Loggers do INFINATLY more damage, in a day!
Some of you are starting to sound like the brain washed "sheeple" who wear "The pale hue of resolution". No dis-respect intended, Just a sad commentary indeed!
If there is less money all around, compared to pre-sequestration times, that could partly explain what we're seeing.Follow the money.