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It's a hole...in my HAND...?

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by darkminstrel, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    Went out shooting and dragged along our oldest. He's getting into the sport and every trip enjoys it more. I decided to leave the high calibre stuff at home and focused on the 12ga and .22s we've got.

    Well it seems that every weapon I own needs some alteration to become 100%. The case in question this time though is my AR-7. The rifle needs to feed a specific ammo, and the mags have to be in juuuuust at the right angle or there are mis-feeds galore.

    Ok, store set up done; I had either a double powder load, or weak case, or...something. Ammo was Remington standard velocity, but the case head separated and blew the gases down through the mag and out the mag floor plate...into the palm of my hand. Now I've got this nice little divot carved into my palm with some powder grains speckled around it.
     
  2. Tilos

    Tilos Idaho Active Member

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    OUCH,
    Will make an interesting Tatoo
    The black never goes away...don't ask how I know.

    Just sayin'
    Tilos
     
  3. numbnutz

    numbnutz molalla Active Member

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    Glad to hear that you are ok for the most part and that it didn't happen to your son. Oh and pics or didn't happen:laugh:
     
  4. 2506

    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Post is useless without pics. ;-)
     
  5. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    I've had case separations with Remington .22 ammo as well, specifically the thunderbolt bulk crap. I'm trying to use it up and stocking up on other types.
     
  6. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    Huh...this stuff is Thunderbolt. Maybe I should write them.
     
  7. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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    I was waiting for a I SHOT MY SELF IN THE HAND line.

    This was a let down after i built it up so much.
     
  8. marty8587

    marty8587 NE Portland Active Member

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    I got rid of all the bulk remmington 22 ammo I had as it was truely crap. It consistantly misfed in my 10/22 and the bullets don't seem to be seated well in the casings, made to shoot around corners I guess. I have had better luck with the federal bulk packs. Glad you are OK!:thumbup:
     
  9. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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    Is the Ar-7 still in one piece? That's what matters, after all!
    "Wounds heal, bones knit - and chicks dig scars!"

    Seriously, my Henry AR-7 would FTF regularly until I polished out the tiny step at the top edge of the receiver. A little emery cloth is all it took, and now it works like a champ. (except with one mag, which I ditched)
     
  10. pdx lefty

    pdx lefty portland Active Member

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    Tilos is right.
    +1 on the don't ask, just sayin thing.

    A guy who looks like PDX Lefty.
     
  11. soberups

    soberups Newberg Well-Known Member

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    I had the same problem but it only happened with the 25 rd Butler Creek magazines. The factory 10 rd mag was a lot more reliable with various types of ammo. I wound up getting rid of the 10/22 altogether and going with a Savage bolt-action, its a lot more accurate (due to the accu-trigger) and 100% reliable with any sort of ammo.
     
  12. marty8587

    marty8587 NE Portland Active Member

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    My problems were mostly with the butler creek mags as well. I've heard good things about the savages, been thinking about the 17 hmr w/accutrigger and bull barrel.
     
  13. rusobr2

    rusobr2 prineville,or Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    i'v had a marlin 60 for quite a few years,and i'v had the thunderbolt explode in my chamber--thought it was a fluke--then it happened again in about 40 more rnds--gave the stuff away--one thing i did notice about the thunderbolt is--it's inconsistant-! pop,bang poof,ping tink--i loaded the tube maybe ten times,and never heard the same shot noise in the 12 shots--i'v run everything there is down the tube of this gun and never had this happen--it was on sale at bi-mart--i usually run cci or federal,and thats what i'm sticken with
     
  14. ZeroRing

    ZeroRing 26th District, WA Active Member

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    +1 +1 +1 to all of the above. My 10/22 works flawlessly with the factory 10 round mags... the 25 round plastic ones though... no way.

    And my Savage .17 HMR is dead accurate. :D
     
  15. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    Well It does look like the ammo is pretty low quality. My AR-7 barrel has a slight feed ramp to help with the inconsistent loading problem of the rifle. The thunderbolt's plastic/laquer/candlewax/whatever coating on the bullet was a boon because they just slipped up the ramp like skates on ice...but the cases mostly show abnormal expansion. That's not the case with the 4 other brands of ammo I run through it.

    And I bought a whole case of that crap? Dayum!
     
  16. mortre

    mortre Yelm, WA Active Member

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    I had a case head separation out of a 10-22. Took the rifle to the local gunsmith after it happened to have the gun checked out. Turns out the rifle would fire while still slightly out of battery and that was most likely the culprit of the case head separation. Might want to have a gunsmith check your rifle to see if that could be what happened. Better safe than sorry a second time.
     
  17. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    I'm actually going to be replacing the springs. This is a second run production model of the rifle and I doubt it's been cared for really. The PO had it sitting in his closet for a decade, but before that I have no idea of its history.

    I'll be rotating new ammo through to see what feeds and fires reliably...and I won't hold the floorplate of the mag any more. uh uh.
     
  18. mortre

    mortre Yelm, WA Active Member

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    My case head separation was how I learned to =p
     
  19. BlackRidge

    BlackRidge Sammamish, WA Member

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    What... no hand picks?