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when gas got up to $4/gal at the end of 2008, exxon not only made more NET profit than they'd ever made in a single quarter, they made more net profit than any corporation had ever made, ever.

i'm a pickup truck driving slightly redneck type guy.. i love muscle cars and heavy duty trucks and the roar of a tuned v8, etc... but if i could convert all my work trucks to electric right now i would. i bubbleguming HATE the oil companies and what they've done to this world. and don't call me a "socialist," 'cause i'm as libertarian as any of you- probably more so. it's not a political thing, it's just a plain observation and personal opinion.

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as to gunbroker and prices... gunbroker is no longer what it was intended to be. its now just a free marketplace for dealers, and dealers would rather sit on inventory and make more per sale than move inventory and make less per sale- that's just how it is and has been for a decade or two. gunbrokers USED to be a place for good deals on used guns from private parties, and occasional sale/liquidation bubblegum from dealers. not anymore. hence, higher prices, more congestion, less movement.
 
FYI, there is no oil shortage...and drilling in America would have little to no effect on supply anyway. Oil is up because big corporations that make the money off the oil decided to circle ships instead of bring them in for refining. Then it turns out there was no real shortage anyway because when the audits started the companies now miraculously had surpluses.

Well PBPG with you understanding of why we are where we are I see little reason to carry on any discussion. You are wrong but even if I prove it you won't accept it. Won't waste another word.



jj
 
Well PBPG with you understanding of why we are where we are I see little reason to carry on any discussion. You are wrong but even if I prove it you won't accept it. Won't waste another word.



jj

You're going to prover wrong every major study done on domestic oil production that states even at maximum capacity domestic production would only have a 2% effect on oil reserves and prices? Domestic oil production does only one thing. It puts a whole lot of money into the pockets of big corporations.
 
when gas got up to $4/gal at the end of 2008, exxon not only made more NET profit than they'd ever made in a single quarter, they made more net profit than any corporation had ever made, ever.

i'm a pickup truck driving slightly redneck type guy.. i love muscle cars and heavy duty trucks and the roar of a tuned v8, etc... but if i could convert all my work trucks to electric right now i would. i bubbleguming HATE the oil companies and what they've done to this world. and don't call me a "socialist," 'cause i'm as libertarian as any of you- probably more so. it's not a political thing, it's just a plain observation and personal opinion.

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as to gunbroker and prices... gunbroker is no longer what it was intended to be. its now just a free marketplace for dealers, and dealers would rather sit on inventory and make more per sale than move inventory and make less per sale- that's just how it is and has been for a decade or two. gunbrokers USED to be a place for good deals on used guns from private parties, and occasional sale/liquidation bubblegum from dealers. not anymore. hence, higher prices, more congestion, less movement.

Better figure out how you will charge your electric car before you buy it. You have to plug those vehicles in so where do you think the power comes from? Politics of today have shut down 6 coal power generation plants and the price of oil power generation is climbing. All prices are rising due to the cost of power which is controled by the politicions.

jj
 
Better figure out how you will charge your electric car before you buy it. You have to plug those vehicles in so where do you think the power comes from? Politics of today have shut down 6 coal power generation plants and the price of oil power generation is climbing. All prices are rising due to the cost of power which is controled by the politicions.

jj
I agree with James May from Top Gear. The future of the automobile is hydrogen.
 
Better figure out how you will charge your electric car before you buy it. You have to plug those vehicles in so where do you think the power comes from? Politics of today have shut down 6 coal power generation plants and the price of oil power generation is climbing. All prices are rising due to the cost of power which is controled by the politicions.

jj

I agree with James May from Top Gear. The future of the automobile is hydrogen.

the future is the only FREE energy source we have- nuclear fission. current technology allows the construction and operation of EXTREMELY safe reactors, and nuclear fission is currently the ONLY energy source mankind has yet discovered that is not a "sink"- you get the exact same amount of energy out of it as took to produce it.
 
the future is the only FREE energy source we have- nuclear fission. current technology allows the construction and operation of EXTREMELY safe reactors, and nuclear fission is currently the ONLY energy source mankind has yet discovered that is not a "sink"- you get the exact same amount of energy out of it as took to produce it.

Yet todays politics won't let plants be built. All the problems we have are do to politics.

jj
 
About 6 years ago or more I was so incensed over the price one guy was charging for ammo on Gunbroker I wrote him and said AIM has the same stuff for $5 a box less. He wrote back that all his stuff is overpriced but through Gunbroker and Ebay he does over a $million in sales a year.

Sorry about the price and availability of oil but prices on Gunbroker are not a great indicator of the economy.
 
FYI, there is no oil shortage...and drilling in America would have little to no effect on supply anyway. Oil is up because big corporations that make the money off the oil decided to circle ships instead of bring them in for refining. Then it turns out there was no real shortage anyway because when the audits started the companies now miraculously had surpluses.
Thats strange, I have noticed in the past when a president talks of more drilling in US, the speculation about oil shortage goes away and price comes back down to norm.... but OK

About 6 years ago or more I was so incensed over the price one guy was charging for ammo on Gunbroker I wrote him and said AIM has the same stuff for $5 a box less. He wrote back that all his stuff is overpriced but through Gunbroker and Ebay he does over a $million in sales a year...
this happens quite often on Ebay... prices are inflated,why??? Cause stupid people are paying it... Its all the hype... Such is Costco, has anyone looked at Costco prices lately??? there right there with reg non membership stores. I have tracked pricing at costco and other stores. Seems to me, I have noticed this trend since they started handing out coupons... and even before that.
 
Thats strange, I have noticed in the past when a president talks of more drilling in US, the speculation about oil shortage goes away and price comes back down to norm.... but OK


this happens quite often on Ebay... prices are inflated,why??? Cause stupid people are paying it... Its all the hype... Such is Costco, has anyone looked at Costco prices lately??? there right there with reg non membership stores. I have tracked pricing at costco and other stores. Seems to me, I have noticed this trend since they started handing out coupons... and even before that.
What you are saying is you keep falling for psychological manipulations by the oil companies. There is no viable study that shows North American oil resources having any substantial effect on oil prices or availability.

PS: I guess you are saying that the whiole time the Bush administration was discussing opening up domestic oil drilling prices of oil went down??? Please direct me to where and when that happened.
 

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