If not now when, if not us than who?

[jyerxa]

So I take it you are just now joining the fight that some of us old guys have been doing all our lives You can have my spot now, let some of the others carry the load for a while....

jj

Yeah, I'm getting a little older and more tired myself.

 

[vico512]

I always ship USPS. And they always have a huge line with at least three tellers open. So business seems to be booming.

I also use the USPS most of the time, but since switching to stamps.com a few years ago, I haven't stood in a line since then.

 

[Decker]

The truth:

YouTube - Sen Bernie Sanders Amazing Speech!

**** yes. Ron Paul for President and Bernie Sanders for Vice President.

-d

 

[gehrheart]

**** yes. Ron Paul for President and Bernie Sanders for Vice President.

-d

now we are talking.:yes:

 

[Jamie6.5]

Oh yeah,... That'll work.
The libertarian and the socialist.
Good luck w/that!

 

[gehrheart]

Oh yeah,... That'll work.
The libertarian and the socialist.
Good luck w/that!

Well maybe not the socialist. But I like the libertarian.


I don't agree with it all, but like most of it, sure stinks less then the other options being presented.

 

[Sasquatchvnv]

You say so, and that is all you say.

Your one opinon, that is not so terminally vague that no response is possible, has to do with projected government accounting costs vs. actuals over a 20 year period. Enron only existed as an entity for 16 years from 1985 to 2001. At the end of Enron the value of its stock was down to less than a penny from a high of $90, so that represents a change of over 900 times! In addition Enron's overestimation of its value was in real time and not a projection over 20 years. In short, your argument is nonsense, and it fits your opinons to a T.

The govs accounting practices are pretty good by comparison to any large corporation. So your argument boils down to the government lies, so you don't have to consider anything they say as reality, and this leaves you free to consult the oracle in your behind for all true knowledge?

I do want to correct something I said in a previous post though, when I said health insurance was getting a $100 a month in excess overhead from half the population. It is really more like a 100 million people and that makes 10 billion a month or 120 billion a year just in overhead, and the gov could do this for less than 40 billion, and this is simply so as they are doing it right now providing insurance to about half our population. This accounting is not in funny money it is in real dollars, the cost of running the department is in real dollars and the amount paid out is in real dollars. The facts support my case and if you can only quote your rear as a source for your arguments then you will only end up being the butt of your own joke.

Yep - public school. All the socialist conditioning - none of the math skills...

 

[bugeye]

Yep - public school. All the socialist conditioning - none of the math skills...

If you can't argue the points, then nitpick the details?

By the way the statement as I gave it is true.

 

[Sasquatchvnv]

If you can't argue the points, then nitpick the details?

By the way the statement as I gave it is true.

Sorry Bug - just couldn't resist that chin stickin out a little bit.

 

[johnboy]

What a foolhardy question in light of the history of communism.

Alone and on its own merits, Medicine alone (and I don't mean just pills and cough syrup) under free markets, and not under communism has saved countless lives! (just to name one free market enterprise)

Communism is a proven failure.
It sucks the life right out of freedom loving people who thrive on life!
Buy you keep dreaming

Not to mention the billions in aid money sent to many countries. We give more than all other countries combined.....

 

[zeezee]

Oh yeah,... That'll work.
The libertarian and the socialist.
Good luck w/that!

 

[johnboy]

It is usually the young ones who have not been taught proper history of how we became this great country. You can never disregard history and assume life will be better if we change our old ways, get more "progressive"....etc etc. Many Americans died to preserve what we have so before we get too hasty to "change", we should seriously consider what direction we are heading.....Of course change can be a good thing....just in the right direction...

 

[zeezee]

It is usually the young ones who have not been taught proper history of how we became this great country. You can never disregard history and assume life will be better if we change our old ways, get more "progressive"....etc etc. Many Americans died to preserve what we have so before we get too hasty to "change", we should seriously consider what direction we are heading.....Of course change can be a good thing....just in the right direction...

Johnboy you hit the nail right on it's freaking head!!!! Take afghanistan. The ruskies fought that war for how many years WITHOUT ANY F'N rules of engagement and yet we are sending thousands of troops over there at a cost of 9 UNITED STATES SERVICEMEN A WEEK DYING and the US Military has both hands tied behind it's back plus are blindfolded with OUR ROE's. For what? Terrorism? PUKE!!!!! Our Presidents, yes Wee willy, GWB and BHO are all guilty (maybe going back to carter/regan/bush 1) of not knowing the history of that land. They say hind sight is 20/20 than what in Gods name are we doing in afghanistan? It's a no win situation and I don't think even big lez can fix it.

 

[Stomper]

The military solution in Afganistan is................................ tac-nukes.

 

[elsullo]

The military solution in Afganistan is................................ tac-nukes.

Well, if it's OK for us to use tactical nukes on them, then it must be OK for them to use tactical nukes on us? You really want to open that door?

And gee, what about the innocents? And the innocent fetuses that the innocents carry? Al Qaida and the Taliban are not about to gather together anyplace separate from innocent people. They have already seen us use "Daisy Cutter" bombs. That's a lot of collateral damage for charcoaling some fanatic "ragheads."

Really, nuclear weapons are not something to joke about.....................elsullo

 

[Buddhalux]

Well, if it's OK for us to use tactical nukes on them, then it must be OK for them to use tactical nukes on us? You really want to open that door?

And gee, what about the innocents? And the innocent fetuses that the innocents carry? Al Qaida and the Taliban are not about to gather together anyplace separate from innocent people. They have already seen us use "Daisy Cutter" bombs. That's a lot of collateral damage for charcoaling some fanatic "ragheads."

Really, nuclear weapons are not something to joke about.....................elsullo

At this point who really gives a damn? The "innocents", that don't do anything to help us oust the bad guys, should of left a long time ago to get away from them. Our guys and gals are dying because they're hands are tied behind their backs with ROE BS. Pull them out and bomb the country back to the stone age so that their religion can be in synch with their country's outlook to the rest of the world. Then rinse and repeat this process to there's no more Allah Akbar explosions killing our people.

 

[armedredneck]

I personally think the Middle East solution is simple.

Withdraw
Bring my co-patriots back home
Let them guard OUR borders
Let the middle east fester and rot in it's own filth
Expand drilling on/ and / just off, our shores
Tell everyone else to eat it

IMO it's pretty dumb to be wasting all of this for oil when we have plenty here. Although I suspect it's oil and strategic positioning that we're really after (Iran). GWOT my a$$. We'd be better served taking a defensive posture closer to home.

Pretty simple, I think we have other issues we could be handling with all the money and most importantly, LIVES, that we're wasting over there.

I once had a different viewpoint on the whole "go get 'em" line of thinking. But enough time has passed, and enough's enough. Just my two cents.

Flame away

 

[Sling Blade]

At this point who really gives a damn? The "innocents", that don't do anything to help us oust the bad guys, should of left a long time ago to get away from them. Our guys and gals are dying because they're hands are tied behind their backs with ROE BS. Pull them out and bomb the country back to the stone age so that their religion can be in synch with their country's outlook to the rest of the world. Then rinse and repeat this process to there's no more Allah Akbar explosions killing our people.

My God, I hope you do not call yourself a Christian.

 

[MikeE]

At this point who really gives a damn? The "innocents", that don't do anything to help us oust the bad guys, should of left a long time ago to get away from them. Our guys and gals are dying because they're hands are tied behind their backs with ROE BS. Pull them out and bomb the country back to the stone age so that their religion can be in synch with their country's outlook to the rest of the world. Then rinse and repeat this process to there's no more Allah Akbar explosions killing our people.

I've heard this type of bull all my life. In chronological order, here are the countries upon which that I have heard right-wingers urge immediate nuclear assault:
The Soviet Union (now Russia), China, N.Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan. My rough guess would be that we are talking close to 1.5 billion people. Not to mention a round planet with winds circling the globe. Why don't we just nuke ourselves and get it over with?
As Armed Redneck put it, our compatriots are over there. We at the least owe them some serious thinking about how we extricate them while getting the least amount of people killed.

 

[zeezee]

I've heard this type of bull all my life. In chronological order, here are the countries upon which that I have heard right-wingers urge immediate nuclear assault:
The Soviet Union (now Russia), China, N.Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan. My rough guess would be that we are talking close to 1.5 billion people. Not to mention a round planet with winds circling the globe. Why don't we just nuke ourselves and get it over with?
As Armed Redneck put it, our compatriots are over there. We at the least owe them some serious thinking about how we extricate them while getting the least amount of people killed.

Grab a joint and lets all sit down and sing give peace a chance. PUKE! Damm libtards!!!!