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Heads up don't buy Levi's signature. They literally last weeks before they start tearing. Paper thin. But I guess that's why they cost 1/3 of regular Levi's or whatever it is.Wranglers today are slightly better than Levi's, especially if you get the ones made in Mexico. Both are made in several countries now, but not in the U.S. Roundhouse are noticeably thicker, and much harder to rip or abrade.