Another 4350 fan... great powder. I've hunted hogs at anywhere from rifle barrel distance to 200+ yds. Either 165's or 180'd will work well... practice with your loads out to 200yds, and be confident with your bullet & powder selection. Choose the one which groups best & is consistent. The vitals "pocket" on hogs is more fwd than on deer. Google up some photos to see what I mean.