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If I have more handguns than that, do I win something?I think you win!
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If I have more handguns than that, do I win something?I think you win!
If one has the means, get an HK. They are like the ultimate box stock duty gun as far as I'm concerned. I don't any more. But I did. And I will get one again someday before March. Got to get the mags first though.Flexing that you can afford a $1k clone of a $500 gun isn't exactly a flex... But hey, I can afford to piss away cash on a Barrett M82 so who am I to say what gimmick you can buy with your money...
Don't be that guy
No. Atleast in my opinion they don't. But I'm not the OP. lol.Do Glock clones count?
An argument could be made, but IMO no. If I recall the Glocks frame rails are permanently molded into the frame. I dont know about the PSA Daggers and other complete factory pistols, many or all of the frame only builds have replaceable rails. The architecture is virtually the same but if its not made by Glock it doesn't have Glocks tolerances and warranty.Do Glock clones count?
The rear PSA rail is replaceable, part is available. Looks like the front could be as well, just by looking at a frame.An argument could be made, but IMO no. If I recall the Glocks frame rails are permanently molded into the frame. I dont know about the PSA Daggers and other complete factory pistols, many or all of the frame only builds have replaceable rails. The architecture is virtually the same but if its not made by Glock it doesn't have Glocks tolerances and warranty.
I never could get over the grip angle, I have half a Glock... someday will finish building it. I prefer the clones with a proper 1911 style grip angle myself.
I believe so the front rails are part of the locking block on the dagger.The rear PSA rail is replaceable, part is available. Looks like the front could be as well, just by looking at a frame.
It would only be considered accuracy if you were aiming the brass at your forehead.Ok, I'll bite, (I was once called a pedantic dweeb on my Florida forum, I have a thing about diction so I get where you are coming from) I believe the Glock in question I once owned was "precisely accurate" as far as the ejected brass consistently hitting my forehead in the exact same location every bubbleguming round fired, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.![]()
Good to know, I actually like the idea of fully replaceable rails.. I think is an improvement on the design.The rear PSA rail is replaceable, part is available. Looks like the front could be as well, just by looking at a frame.
I loved my HK45. It was a great gun and I carried it for years. What I did not love was the price. At the time spare mags were $80 a pop, parts were similarly exorbitant, and H&K made sure the aftermarket options were sparse. I could get Sig or S&W mags for $25-30 and aftermarket support for both were fantastic at the time. I would invest in more HK stuff but I can get the same quality at half the price elsewhere. And it is not like H&K makes up that price disparity with customer service or anything, because they still hate their civilian customers and treat them like crap. Overall while I find the products fantastic I just do not see the value proposition for their stuff, at least not for anyone not on a government contract.If one has the means, get an HK. They are like the ultimate box stock duty gun as far as I'm concerned. I don't any more. But I did. And I will get one again someday before March. Got to get the mags first though.
As far as Glock knock offs, I am not paying more for a knock off. That is why I love my Ruger RXM.
To flex on the poorsI loved my HK45. It was a great gun and I carried it for years. What I did not love was the price. At the time spare mags were $80 a pop, parts were similarly exorbitant, and H&K made sure the aftermarket options were sparse. I could get Sig or S&W mags for $25-30 and aftermarket support for both were fantastic at the time. I would invest in more HK stuff but I can get the same quality at half the price elsewhere. And it is not like H&K makes up that price disparity with customer service or anything, because they still hate their civilian customers and treat them like crap. Overall while I find the products fantastic I just do not see the value proposition for their stuff, at least not for anyone not on a government contract.
I traded the HK45 for a Sig 226, got both the .40 and .357 barrel for it and still got cash on top for the trade. I understand why people like H&K, but I will never understand why people buy H&K.
I have a P30L and bought my daughter a HK VP9SK for her 21st birthday. I'm a Glock guy and I have a very utilitarian philosophy when it comes to firearms, but man oh man are the HKs some fine tools.I loved my HK45. It was a great gun and I carried it for years. What I did not love was the price. At the time spare mags were $80 a pop, parts were similarly exorbitant, and H&K made sure the aftermarket options were sparse. I could get Sig or S&W mags for $25-30 and aftermarket support for both were fantastic at the time. I would invest in more HK stuff but I can get the same quality at half the price elsewhere. And it is not like H&K makes up that price disparity with customer service or anything, because they still hate their civilian customers and treat them like crap. Overall while I find the products fantastic I just do not see the value proposition for their stuff, at least not for anyone not on a government contract.
I traded the HK45 for a Sig 226, got both the .40 and .357 barrel for it and still got cash on top for the trade. I understand why people like H&K, but I will never understand why people buy H&K.
They're so perfect the majority of people change everything about them. lol.Since Glock equals Perfection....
Shouldn't the best answer be : "One"....
Kidding here for all you Glock owners....use and enjoy what you like and own.
Andy
Nuh uh! We only change the trigger, sights, slide catch, mag release, guide rod, barrel, slide, baseplates...They're so perfect the majority of people change everything about them. lol.
While funny and quite possibly true....They're so perfect the majority of people change everything about them. lol.
Truth. I think that may be a lot of the draw towards them for many folks. The original purchase doesn't break the bank and overtime with so much aftermarket support you can really make it "yours."While funny and quite possibly true....
That you can change a lot with them , could be a good thing...since you can then make a firearm truly yours and best for how you use it.
Andy
Not a fan of the VP9 (sold mine, bought one looking for a Glock replacement) but I love the P30S V3, it would be my choice in a modern DA/SA auto loader.I have a P30L and bought my daughter a HK VP9SK for her 21st birthday. I'm a Glock guy and I have a very utilitarian philosophy when it comes to firearms, but man oh man are the HKs some fine tools.