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giving Russia 7 iislands off the coast of Alaska

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Barefoot343, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. Barefoot343

    Barefoot343 liberalville Active Member

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    WOW... Obama just gave russia some islands off the coast of Alaska, I don't even know what to say, why would zero do this?!

    Lets hear some ideas, my take is he wants to march into Syria or Iran unhindered and is buying off Russia to stay out of the new mess.

    whats your prediction?
     
  2. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    First I heard of this, where did you hear about it?
     
  3. Barefoot343

    Barefoot343 liberalville Active Member

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    parsons_12b LaPine Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I would like to see some documentation on this
     
  5. Barefoot343

    Barefoot343 liberalville Active Member

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    I don't care who is prez. or what party it is, too many things done in secret, not telling the country, so much freaking coruption it is just unbelivable. Power hungry bass turds
     
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  6. ereezy503

    ereezy503 Oregon Member

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    My prediction is that the story is made up. If there were any truth to it whatsoever all 3 of the GOP candidates would already have soundbites on the radio talking about it.
     
  7. ereezy503

    ereezy503 Oregon Member

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    Research the islands and see what you come up with. It looks to me like the islands have been under Soviet control since the early 1900's. If Obama wants to gain a strategic edge by giving people things that already belong to them, I would argue that he is among are more clever leaders.
     
  8. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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  9. macdougall29

    macdougall29 Newberg, Oregon, United States Active Member

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    NEVER give away land, especially as valuable as this could potentially be :-(
     
  10. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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  11. Barefoot343

    Barefoot343 liberalville Active Member

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    ummm I just listed a link and told you it is just starting to come out, I don't know much more than the 10 or 15 links show, but can't understand why you just act like it is no big deal. I guess you will hear much more in the coming days and weeks from your favorite news sources...not.

    I really don't give a crap what party is in power the spineless jelly fish or the arrogant liars,(they are pretty much one and the same anymore just with the letter D(ick$) or R(ectal matter)in front of their names), but it is very irritating to see what the current administration is doing to the constitution, our basic freedoms and to simply hear or see most libs poo poo it away like it is no big deal or blame it on the previous administration, I guess it is no big deal we should all just shut up and go home, nothing to see here right?

    The reason you are probably not hearing anything from the canidates is because they are close to the same as all the other idiots in power, or maybe because they havn't heard about it yet either? I don't know.
     
  12. NWGunner

    NWGunner Salem Active Member

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    He could be clever he could be our downfall... Either way too much secret deals amongst the elite is killing our great nation! Checkers or chess our nations future ain't a game to me! We should all have a right to know and decide what's best not just the 1%...
     
  13. A.I.P.

    A.I.P. UpperUS Active Member

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    He has NO RIGHT to surrender US Territory to another nation! This is the Ultimate TREASON!
     
  14. Barefoot343

    Barefoot343 liberalville Active Member

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    I couldn't agree more. Just don't get the actions of the POTUS.
     
  15. A.I.P.

    A.I.P. UpperUS Active Member

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    Fellowship of the Minds
    Conservatives who love America
    Skip to contentHomeAboutCreeping Big-Brother StateElection 2012Fellowship GardensHealth TipsIllegal ImmigrationIslamJoan’s KitchenLeftwing PathologySage’s Bible StudySt. Michael’s PrayerSteve’s SecurityThe Obama Chronicles ← For the Lord’s Day – Take Time to be HolyThis year’s Stella Awards go to…. →Obama gives 7 oil-rich Alaskan islands to Russia
    Posted on February 19, 2012 by Dr. Eowyn | 55 Comments


    Still doubt the message of the pic above? Take a look at the latest news that’s not reported by the establishment media.

    Last month, Obama killed the job-producing Keystone XL Pipeline that, if allowed to proceed, would deliver 700,000 barrels a day of crude oil from Alberta’s oil sands to refineries along the Gulf of Mexico.

    Joe Miller reports for WorldNetDaily that Obama’s war against U.S. energy independence continues unabated this month with a foreign-aid program that directly threatens Alaska’s sovereign territory. The Obama administration is giving away seven strategic, resource-laden Alaskan islands to the Russians.

    Miller should know because he is an Alaskan. More than that, this is the same Joe Miller who was the 2010 Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate from Alaska. A West Point graduate, decorated combat veteran from the first Gulf War, and former judge, Miller holds a law degree from Yale and an advanced economics degree from the University of Alaska.

    Source

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    Miller continues:

    “The seven endangered islands in the Arctic Ocean and Bering Sea include one the size of Rhode Island and Delaware combined. The Russians are also to get the tens of thousands of square miles of oil-rich seabeds surrounding the islands. The Department of Interior estimates billions of barrels of oil are at stake.

    The State Department has undertaken the giveaway in the guise of a maritime boundary agreement between Alaska and Siberia. Astoundingly, our federal government itself drew the line to put these seven Alaskan islands on the Russian side. But as an executive agreement, it could be reversed with the stroke of a pen by President Obama or Secretary Clinton.

    The agreement was negotiated in total secrecy. The state of Alaska was not allowed to participate in the negotiations, nor was the public given any opportunity for comment. This is despite the fact the Alaska Legislature has passed resolutions of opposition – but the State Department doesn’t seem to care.

    The imperiled Arctic Ocean islands include Wrangell, Bennett, Jeannette and Henrietta. Wrangell became American in 1881 with the landing of the U.S. Revenue Marine ship Thomas Corwin. The landing party included the famed naturalist John Muir. It is 3,000 square miles in size.

    Northwest of Wrangell are the DeLong Islands, named for George Washington DeLong, the captain of USS Jeannette. Also in 1881, he discovered and claimed these three islands for the United States. He named them for the voyage co-sponsor, New York City newspaper publisher James Gordon Bennett. The ship’s crew received a hero’s welcome back in Washington, and Congress awarded them gold medals.

    In the Bering Sea at the far west end of the Aleutian chain are Copper Island, Sea Lion Rock and Sea Otter Rock. They were ceded to the U.S. in Seward’s 1867 treaty with Russia.

    Now is the time for the Obama administration to stand up for U.S. and Alaskan rights and invaluable resources. The State Department’s maritime agreement is a loser – it gives us nothing in return for giving up Alaska’s sovereign territory and invaluable resources. We won the Cold War and should start acting like it.

    The Obama administration must stop the giveaway immediately.

    [...] This is not a new issue. In fact the Bush and Clinton administrations are directly at fault for the same inaction. A maritime agreement negotiated by the U.S. State Department set the Russian boundary on the other side of the disputed islands, but no treaty has ratified this action. Consequently, it is within the president’s power to stop this giveaway. The Alaska delegation’s failure to put pressure on the administration is inexplicable. State Department Watch, an organization that assisted with this article, has confronted each administration and is currently confronting the Obama administration — and has been met by silence. I’m hoping this piece will help reinvigorate efforts to stop this handover.”
     
  16. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Please do the internet a favor and research claims before posting things that just make "sensational" news. From what I see, the islands were never part of the Seward purchase.

    The agreement was ratified in 1990 under the first Bush administration;
    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/125431.pdf

    No where is there any evidence of oil, or that the islands were ever under US control.

    Also please note that the story was originally posted in the "opinion" section on a news site....
     
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  17. Sling Blade

    Sling Blade Yamhill County Well-Known Member

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    Hey, alarmists - don't your heads get warm from wearing those tinfoil hats all the time?
     
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  18. Barefoot343

    Barefoot343 liberalville Active Member

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    alarmists? I don't know about that, love how that term is thrown around so losely though kind of like the word trillion. Anytime you really want to make the side you disagree with look like they are nuts just call them "alarmists". I just thought it was amazing to read and couldn't believe our presidents were involved with that (Bush and zero). As I mentioned above the gov in general is drunk on their own power and it is amazing to see.

    I guess CNN needs to report the story for it to be true huh, lol. sorry I didn't clear it through them first.

    I just want my own island, and am jelous of the giveaways, a few bailouts here, an island or 7 there, a new tsar here, cushy job for a donor there, trillion here, trillion there, etc., etc.
     
  19. ereezy503

    ereezy503 Oregon Member

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    Stories such as this one are manufactured to rile up either side of the political spectrum. This one happens to be aimed at the far right. Look up Bennett Island and see what you come up with. If you research "Obama gives Alaskan Islands to Russia" you will find several sites that have copy and pasted the same story, but they are all blogs, not credible news sources.
     
  20. Barefoot343

    Barefoot343 liberalville Active Member

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    you may be right.