Washington ffl transfer and 1639

[WALawyer]

not sure where to post this but made a private sale today at tropic pawn for ffl transfer and asked them what they knew about 1639 , so as of the first tropic will raise their fee to $29 and once 1639 takes hold the state will charge up to $25 as well ,
so private sale ffl transfer will be $54 fee plus a 10 day mandatory waiting period to pick up your firearm no more cash and carry even with concealed permit ,
and whatever else the 30 page 1639 law includes , he said he was also told a class will be required for a concealed permit too , this is really going to bite
$54 fee for a private sale DANG

The new fee is not set yet, so the dealer is jumping the gun (pun intended). The initiative says that the department of licensing may require a dealer to charge a fee not to exceed $25. And this would only apply to AR purchases/transfers.

 

[Alexx1401]

not sure where to post this but made a private sale today at tropic pawn for ffl transfer and asked them what they knew about 1639 , so as of the first tropic will raise their fee to $29 and once 1639 takes hold the state will charge up to $25 as well ,
so private sale ffl transfer will be $54 fee plus a 10 day mandatory waiting period to pick up your firearm no more cash and carry even with concealed permit ,
and whatever else the 30 page 1639 law includes , he said he was also told a class will be required for a concealed permit too , this is really going to bite
$54 fee for a private sale DANG

If there is any "up side" to this it will be may be, big may be,to wake a few more up. Laws like this only pass for one reason, too many gun owners can't be bothered with voting. Every time one of these new laws goes in it takes a while. Then I start to hear the gripping from someone who "just found out" about it when it effects them. Of course the first thing out of their mouth then is blame everyone else, like the NRA, for allowing it. So as this rolls out and starts to make life hard, I hope a LOT of gun owners who could not be bothered with a vote maybe will next time.

 

[rdb241]

The new fee is not set yet, so the dealer is jumping the gun (pun intended). The initiative says that the department of licensing may require a dealer to charge a fee not to exceed $25. And this would only apply to AR purchases/transfers.

By the definition of "Assualt Rifle" in this bill. Does a stripped New AR receiver fall into this? Do we have to wait 10 days to pick up a receiver and go thorugh all the hoops?

 

[bbbass]

By the definition of "Assualt Rifle" in this bill. Does a stripped New AR receiver fall into this? Do we have to wait 10 days to pick up a receiver and go thorugh all the hoops?

I'm guessing yeah. A 100% lower is a firearm is an assault rifle.

 

[rdb241]

In theory. That is why I asked WALawyer, He would know.

 

[DuneHopper]

I went and bought a boat today. Monday I am going to put some over priced insurance on it.
I see a storm coming. Not sure the boat is going ot make it

Be careful just a few months ago I was testing the weight capacity of my boat, the heaviest thing I had was a safe full of guns.
The guy that sold me the boat was wrong on the weight capacity. Lost the whole lots. Sad day ...

 

[WasrNwarpaint]

I bird told me some counties in Oregon and Washington, wont abide by uncosntituional laws....
Also just sayin.


That's a fact!

How I hope to see this play out is we are going to use the county 2nd preservation measures to legally NOT COMPLY.... it would be our local sheriff coming to our home dealing with us and gun issues, we elected a new sheriff and the new 2nd A preservation measures law, I dont expect issues with our local authorities, It will be the state that pushes an issue, which at some point will force a lawsuit between us and the state, hopefully we get support from "The Second Amendment Foundation" or "OFF" etc and kick it to the supreme court

I feel if a city can make its own gun ordinances then why not an entire county? as far as state laws superseding county laws, I ask what about sanctuary cities, sanctuary states creating laws to ignore federal laws already in existence which is a complete disregard for the law on both issues concerning the state

hopeful thinking out loud

 

[JO JO]

this bill calls any semi auto rifle an assault rifle including a .22 semi auto rifle as I understand it is not AR specific it's any semi auto , many prongs to this bill I hope it gets taken back to court for a second time and tossed out for a second time , we have no idea yet to it's effect like the medical history waiver , training required, the safe storage requirement, it is total BS , It will require that all guns be locked up ? I do keep my firearms in a safe but I also keep a nightstand / home defense gun loaded and ready but this law says I need to keep that locked up to ?
So if someone breaks into my home and I grab my nightstand gun that is not locked up to protect my family from someone that broke into my home I now could also be a felon ?
1639 is so unclear in it's descriptions it is a dangerous tool of the left agenda and I agree with the post above about non voters and how we are watching our freedom slip away across the country inch by inch ,
sorry about the long winded rant guys

 

[rdb241]

The medical waiver is total BS. I do understand what they are trying to acieve, But what happened to Doctor/patient confidentuality?

 

[Jabba]

I wouldn't be surprised if a semi-auto bb-gun is now an assault rifle.

 

[rdb241]

Actualy full auto BB guns are already ilegal. The full auto definition says any projectile that is repeated by only one pull of the trigger.

 

[JO JO]

But what happened to Doctor/patient confidentuality?

the same thing that is happening to the 2nd amendment, the left is stepping on and over it to achieve their goal

 

[titsonritz]

Geees @titsonritz , I wasn't talking about the master plan we are not supposed to talk, about I was talking about the other one.

Oh that one...

 

[rdb241]

Look what I just found........

https://www.change.org/p/voters-rep...djdfX_vH75KFIqeem6p48jNJ2jpUemoz_0V8CnrAYQLCU

 

[11Charlie]

Look what I just found........

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signed and shared!

 

[rdb241]

By the way I of course signed also.

 

[cascadian]

I wouldn't be surprised if a semi-auto bb-gun is now an assault rifle.

As I read it, if it has a rifled barrel, then arguably it could. Provided that another round/BB is automatically loaded upon the expulsion of energy that propels the previous projectile

 

[cascadian]

the same thing that is happening to the 2nd amendment, the left is stepping on and over it to achieve their goal

Lest we forget, the Washington State Constitution has tremendous privacy protections and firearms rights provision....

And a pre-emption on local governments for firearms law.

Even though the 2nd is the only Amendment that people feel comfortable limiting, we have a state constitution that counts...

 

[cascadian]

The questions is to what constitutes 'impaired'

 

[WALawyer]

By the definition of "Assualt Rifle" in this bill. Does a stripped New AR receiver fall into this? Do we have to wait 10 days to pick up a receiver and go thorugh all the hoops?

I was talking to another lawyer friend of mine about this and we're under the impression that a lower or receiver would not constitute an AR under WA state law. A lower or receiver is a "firearm" as defined by federal law, but not WA state law. Since I-1639 is a state initiative, the state definition would apply. If someone has a different take on it, I'm all ears.